The Terminator has signed the "No Violent Video Games to Children" Bill

Just some more useless laws the state of California needs:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6135332.html

 

damn you arnold

 

how is this any different than just not selling kids mature games,which the rating labels even warn against? My 5 year old cousin shouldn't have had GTA when I went to visit the relatives in florida last year, but he also didn't buy it himself. His parents were so oblivious to him buring cops and screwing whores they didnt hear him laughing the whole time..funny guy.



This is common sense and wont affect anyone that's not like 8 years old. They are supposed to check for ID at places like walmart for DVD's, but if you even have facial fuzz they assume you're 17. I don't even get carded in the ABC store anymore, but that might be because I'm a regular..

 

Sorry for being rude and dirty, but FUCK Arnold.

Well I asked for about 2 months ago in my local super market about the age thing, and he said he would sell it(gta) to persons who what ever age, as long they did not begin to ask about "if I were bla bla bla".

And in DK we are not that extreme about age, as long you don´t get out and kill people, because you can do that in GTA.

Except you have to be 16 to buy beers and alcohol, and buy cigarettes. And you have to be 18 to drink at the alcohol selling places. And also it is illegal to buy pornographic material if you are under 16 years old, but it is quite funny since it is legal to do sleep with others when you are 15. And then you can go to jail, since you are legal age.

If you read one of my former posts (an old one) i told about two person who was 14 and 15, and they got 10 and 12 years each and a oneway ticket out of Denmark when their prison time is up.

 

IMO - just common sense. You need this kind of thing, and it should limit those stupid stories you read in the papers about children being turned evil by games. Will not stop downloading the damn things, but somehow gives videogames a less dangerous image.

Which is ironic seeing as they are going to slap a damn huge label on the cover of the effected games. Hope it comes off as it will spoil the art on the games. Not that that effects my jp only collection!

The Japanese 18 only games warning labels, not the dull cero 18 recommend ones, are all shiny and pretty.

Edit: Shouldn't know that.

 

What a fucking hypocrite. Goes from stealing clothes off of dead people in movies, and then says its not ok to do similar stuff in games for kids. Almost every kid knows about the Terminator movies, and disregarding the ESRBs rating? (which is basically the same shit?)

I watched an episode of CSI last night, where a kid got in trouble for "re-enacting" something that happened in a GTA-ish computer game, and even the guy that programmed the scene got in trouble.

Its not the game, its the stupid ass kids and their parents that are responsible.

 

It is just a stupid law, it will not actually change a damn thing. Old arnie just has to sign to make it look like he is doing things, but it is ironic that it is arnie playing the moral card. The kids (god I sound old) will just download these games or get them from older kids.

There was something similar in Japan, a kid got some hentai pc game and his parent found it. Big shock! The shop got in trouble and some silly piece of legislation was passed to make it more risky for shops to sell 18 and over stuff without checking with the person's age. However I was at a Bishojou game convention and there were loads of people under 18 there, there were guards and supposed ID checks but no-one actually cared or was removed. These laws just keep a small group of complainers very happy.

 

Hmm, I thought nudity was ok in Japan. (J/K)

Hentai can be extrememly disturbing sometimes, though..

 

Tell me about it, to my shame I brought "the god of death" limited edition pc game (without seeing the final cover) I played it for about 3 hours and then was so shocked I actually had to stop. I don't know what to do with it. I probably can't sell it and it was about 50 pounds to buy. It is an amazingly big Limited edition box, and it came with loads of stuff. The objective is to drive people mad, 15 people die within the first hour, and not in a nice way. It actually isn't really hentai, it is more a game where you play something like the devil. Anyway the vast majority of PC games are very good with occasional Hentai segments that are appropriate to the story, just like sex scenes in books or films. The best example of a hentai game which isn't the least bit inappropriate would be something like greengreen, or hanihani. They are good games, even without the hentai they would be just as good. I'm sure if Sony, etc allowed it we would see sex in console games, just like in films.

 

You think Sony would release a bunch of hentai games, like another certain system?

 

Well I have noticed sony's attitude slowly change. They now do those 18 rated idol disks for PS2, unlike the original lot of ones, before cero, they are actually quite strong stuff.

If you look at cero 18 adventure bishojou games like curio and baldr force. They are a lot stronger than bishojou convertions from early ps2 life. For example in baldr force exe the screen goes black where the hentai screen would be, and then it cuts, but it is clear whats going on. They used to pretend nothing sexual happens at all, like cafe little wish. I don't think its a bad thing things have changed, but it was nice to play innocent versions of games where hentai was not necessary at all.

I doubt they will ever go full hentai, unless they really need the money, hey maybe at the end of the Xbox life (if it has any) we will see loads of H games in Japan!

I also wonder which system you are talking about - almost all consoles resorted to hentai at the end of their lives, even the super famicom had a breast or two in it's final breath!

 

Just kidding about that other system. I was talking about the FM towns Marty.

Do you think we might see some Hentai games in the U.S. one day? BTW, arent some PC games in the US hentai related?

 

Im sorry but how many of you have kids?

I cant imagine many on this site having kids and those who do, im not talking to you.

I dont want my kids to be able to buy GTA,doom,hitman. Right now the games are not that realistic but with this next gen or the one after that we may see some pretty gruesome stuff.

When and if you grow up you uderstand that your kids need to be somewhat protected from this stuff, are my kids going to find this stuff anyway? yes, but they also need to know that violence isnt good and minors not being able to buy these games lets them know that.

Our socieity isnt somthing that just happpens, there is a certaint amount of self governing that has to go on. This is not a small group of consumers its a huge group.

And anyway if these laws are strickly enforced then deveolpers will be able make and sell game about tentacal rape and get away with it, since there would be no chance the kids can get ahold of it.

Its doenst matter to me one bit that kids 13-17 year old boys (the only age group that this affects) that have crap for parents wont be able to go and pick up GTA, i want my kids protected.

I do understand that this law prolly wont change to much but anyhoot this is my view on the whole thing

 

blackzc: It´s a tough world, and yes children needs to be protected , but they needs to get some scars in their life otherwise they would think the real life is a wonderland, and not a cruel world.

And other than that I would not go into the age discussion at all. Because I am more free spirited , since I am living in a country where we are more relaxed.

I want to tell you a little story, If it was not for the games like Killer Instinct and the likes on the old SNES i would have maybe gone to jail, since it was a hell going through school. And other shit.

The morale is teach your child there is a difference between violence that you see in videogames, and in the real world. Since no one is going to get up after having been beaten with chainpunches and straight blasts in real world, if you aren´t a drug addict who doesn´t feel it hit : Untill his brain shuts down.

 

I am no expert on US games, I'm a jap only kinda guy.

However you do get hentai dvds and I'm afraid to say you already have quite a few translated hentai games on the selves right now from peach princess, g-collections, hemeya, hobibox, libido and others (also fan-subbed demos). So you do have quite a few hentai games, although they are all pretty tame and quite dull and all of the same type. None of the really classy or moe or big budget ones. Funny thing is as they are uncensored, unlike the jap versions so along with uncensored dvds they are imported back to Japan. I found a back street shop in DenDen in osaka that sold pirate versions of uncensored american hentai dvds.

As for console versions, who knows, the hentai pc games have been quite succesful in the US, we had them in the uk, but they were very unpopular so they stopped releasing them. (that was late 90's)

I am surprised the arnie crew haven't gone and banned those full-on hentai games for the PC in america yet!

 

Probably because its so underground its not even funny.

 

Underground eh? Check out Jlist.com - they have a pretty complete list of all the translated hentai games for PC. + all the companies have offices in the US. So it is not dojin style, it is all pretty legit.

Now I have been playing games for 18 year olds for ages - since I was 13 and my mother even brought me steam hearts as a present. It has done me no harm - I have held down jobs, passed all my exams, got into one of the best universitys in the world and have had long term relationships with girls. I even wrote a thesis on bishojou games and urban landscapes! Anyway I really doubt that games are that bad for you, no more than your imagination is bad for you. Violent games and pornographic games should have laws placed against them, this places the stigma that the game is wrong in the childs mind. They then play the game in the knowledge that it is off-limits and they will forever associate these images with what is off-limits. That is how my experience of playing games I shouldn't have has done for me and I am "reasonably" normal - I think.

For example, I played samurai spirits to death when it came out, now I didn't then attack someone like that Japanese kid. It is always other factors that lead to the really bad things, but it is far easier and more exciting for the media to blame it on these edgy new video-games.

 

as for blackzc - its great you want to protect your children, so did my mother. She just felt that it was fine to watch or do what I liked, you feel otherwise. Thats the job of parenting, there is no wrong or right and you have the job and responsability to limit what your children consume. Please don't think I endorse giving children any old game, anybody who has children knows whats best for them, thats your lucky perogative as parents - you're the one in control.

 

This doesn't seem that bad to me. It is basically just to reinforce to retailers that they need to be checking for Id on games. The only people who need to worry about this are the people who are selling violent games to children.

 

If videogames want to be taken seriously as a popular entertainment medium, then they have to come under the same guidelines as film and music.

I see no problem with that, there is no problem.

Non of us are children here, some of us have kids. If I had them, i'd want their purchaes to be regulated for sure. Personally i'd go easy on them and may buy stuff with explicit content for them, but certainly i wouldn't want then to be able too without my supervision or on their own whim.