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  1. Consumed

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    Because to all intents and purposes they're not practising medicine as you or I would define it. Homeopathic remedies contain nothing that can't be bought over the counter at your local chemists or herbalists, therefore anyone can set themselves up as one of these charlatans and espouse as much bullshit as they like with no fear of vindication as and when the tincture or potion fails to work. It's a win-win situation for the homeopathist, as when your hair and teeth fall out from lead poisoning after applying a 'Peruvian bear sweat' poultice they can just turn round and say the treatment failed because your body is full of nasty western chemicals and your now profound deafness and blindness is nothing to do with the lethal doses of mercury you've unwittingly ingested over the past few months but can be traced back to that time you had 3 teaspoons of 'Buttercup' when you were 7 and had a slight cough.

    As for advising people to not have a proper Malaria jab the reasons are patently obvious. By agreeing that yes, in principal, it may be a good idea to have a proper shot from your doctor they're openly admitting that the service they offer is nothing but quackery and a sham. And when you consider how lucrative this pseudo medical science can be, the last thing you want to do is slay the goose that lays the golden egg now, do you?
     
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    The thing is that when I've met these people before they've always just been dippy acid casualties who're still living in the 70s. They've none of them been viciously calculating in the way you mean (and this kind of example obviously suggests), and they all 100% believed in what they were flogging, absolutely no question.

    What I can't fathom is why at least one of the homeopaths questioned didn't think to say "take both - better safe than sorry, eh?" but then I guess I don't know what mania possesses someone to start believing in homeopathic remedies in the first place.

    Well then surely that means they can't sell or advertise anti-malarial treatments, then. They can't have it both ways, right?
     
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    Sadly there's nothing in law that says you can't advertise these alternatives as long as you put a disclaimer stating that their efficacy varies from person to person. If 20 people take the homeopathic option and 6 or 7 (I'm being generous here) of them return unscathed and uninfected you have a success rate. Yes, it's woeful by anybody's standard but it's a success rate nonetheless.

    A fair few of these practitioners do believe that what they're doing is right and beneficial, however for every genuine one there are countless more who see it as nothing more than a way to extract money from the wallets and purses of the terminally gullible.

    Like everything else though there is some basis of truth in what these people offer. What we now call 'old wives tales' were practised for centuries until the Church decided that it was heresy and witchcraft and anyone offering these services would either be cast out or put to death. Homeopathy is little more than what was known as white magick but has gone through such bastardization that it mirrors its ancestor in little more than theory now. There's big money in medicine of any description now so why let something as silly as ethics, morality or truth get in the way?
     
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    With you up until this point. What truth exactly?

    There's really no "white magick" in the history of homeopathy (at least not that I'm aware), it's a relatively modern pseudo-scientific form of treatment based mainly on the bizarre idea that diluting something over and over somehow gives it curing properties. If you meant the ye olde herbal remedies, copper healing bracelets etc that clutter the chemists these days, then sure. The thing is, if they could be proven to work in the slightest they'd be labelled as medicine. If they're being sold in a chemists then you can be absolutely certain that they've all undergone endless clinical trials.
     
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    The 'Ye Olde' type stuff is what I was mainly referring to mainly but certain plants and flowers have always been known to have healing or beneficial powers and attributes. Get stung by a nettle for example and what do you do, you find a dock leaf, rub it on the affected area and within a few minutes the pain goes away. Homeopathy is the same basic principal but taken to the nth degree.
     
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    The lengthy and ridiculous process of creating homeopathic remedies ensures that there is effectively no chance that even a single atom of the original matter remain in the resulting "cure", and apparently the potency increases the more dilute these cures are. That's different enough to any kind of folklore cure (like the dock leaf for nettles example, which is a good one) for me to call it a fundamentally separate basic principal. Also fucking crazy, but that much is obvious.

    They get bundled together because they got wrapped up in the new age thing, I think that's basically the extent of it.
     
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    Anyway, as everyone knows the only true cure-all remedy is Crystology. Anyone who disagrees wants their bumps reading...
     
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    I see your "crystology", and raise you a "colonic hydrotherapy" :p
     
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    Never doubt the power of the placebo effect.

    "I think, therefore I am."
     
  10. Consumed

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    You play dirty (no pun intended) ;-)

    Radionics :lol:
     
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    Your problems are all Xenu's fault anyway. Wanna hear more? Just pay me a shitload of money.
     
  12. Alchy

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    Ooh, that's a good one. Any time someone becomes a millionaire out of it you know the scam was well-orchestrated, at least (Scientology has it down to an art form).

    I doubt this one's a millionaire...

    http://www.dianaewald.com/Egyptian_DNA_Healing.html
     
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    Check her FaceBook page, she offers more spurious 'treatments' than a Thai plastic surgeon :)
     
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    Radonics and Crystology, Hrmph... All of those are just snake oil and junk science. Now the power of the pyramids my friends, That's where the cures are.
     
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    alphagamer What is this? *BRRZZ*.. Ouch!

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    It's copyright laws gone fucking mad. The only reason they're pushing for this is because reviews and gameplay show how shit the games are. For good games it increases sales and for shit games it lowers them.
     
  18. WolverineDK

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    Yeah, but this one is even fucking worse for me as a Dane.

    Danish Police Aim to End Anonymity on the Internet

    Imagine, if you are a political refugee , and fighting (writing) from Denmark..

    True too.
     
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    Cyantist: if you know how to message them, then please do it. Cause I think a lot of Danes (including me) would be grateful.
     
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