Thoughts on the state of the gaming industry today.

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  1. 90s Gamer

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    Difficult? Killer 7 was a light gun game without a light gun, the rest are pretty much DMC clones. They get low scores because they're all style and the gameplay isn't very good, although No More Heroes was half-decent even if it did suffer from some really bad design choices like all Suda games.
     
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    Yep, but some people use it, there are a lot of gamers out there with way more money than sense and they would rather pay to get all the powerups right from the start than you know, playing the damn game to get them
     
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  6. 90s Gamer

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    First of all, the game looks horrible, RPG-maker quality. And secondly, phones are not devices for gaming.

    /end of story.
     
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    Fanboyism and elitism is bad for gaming. That's not the industry's fault though.

    On a more serious (and related) note, excessive remakes, adaptations, sequels, etc. are kinda bad for the industry. I would rather Square-Enix focus energy on making something new, even a prequel of FF6, but I understand making a remake for a platform like iOS & Android is way easier than making a new game (they'll probably even make someone else port it) & allows a new generation to play the game (this IS good) & ensures that the game will be available for sale for a good long time (compared to releasing it on a console that goes obsolete in 5 years).
     
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    Hopefully they'll include the MFi support for iOS so a real controller can be used and there are some good controller attachments for Android.
     
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    Good, because you already can. Get a snes or gba emulator and there you go, portable FFVI.

    I don't own an iPhone or an android phone, because I have no need for one. I have an older flip phone that works fine. Does it make it calls? Does it receive calls? Then it gets the job done for me.

    I own a 3DS and a VITA. Both are handheld video games systems. They focus on video games. That's what they do, play video games. They have actual buttons, they have actual retail copies of most games, and while they can do other things, games are their primary focus.

    That's why I don't understand the recent trend with phone games. It's one thing to release a spin off of a game, or to release some cheap time waster meant to kill time during a coffee break, but why release a highly anticipated remake for the second highest rated game of it's series exclusively on a device whose primary focus is not to play games?

    3DS or VITA. Pick one. Or better yet, put some time and effort into it, either with beautiful hand drawn HD sprites or go for an ambitious attempt at 3D, and release it on current or next gen consoles. Why should I have to miss out on the remake to my personal favorite Final Fantasy game just because I don't have a need for an overpriced phone with features I either don't need or can't stand? It's not like they have to worry about not making enough profits, FFVI is the second highest rated FF behind FFVII. It'll sell.

    EDIT: I realize I referred only to phones above, but I share similar thoughts regarding music and video players as well. Why would I buy a music player to play video games?

    "Genesis DOES what NintenDON'T!"

    I've personally been wanting one ever since I was pleasantly surprised by Crisis Core FFVII. But then again, FFIV: The After Years felt like playing bad fan fiction. Hmm, I'm not so sure now.

    Is it though? Haha, thinking about the "new generation" playing it makes me think of a certain someone constantly shitting on and blaming the game because it doesn't hold your hand for every little thing.

    "Ugh, so much text. I don't give a shit about any of this. *skip* *skip* *skip*. Fucking hell, did they expect me to actually read all of that?"

    "Where am I supposed to go? Gah! This game fucking sucks! It never tells you anything! This game is so dated!"

    "Whuuuuuuuuuut? Oh yeah, I'm just supposed to know not to attack it when it's in it's shell! hahahahah, what a poorly programmed game!"

    "Huh? Wait a minute, hold on! I was just walking, then an enemy randomly appeared! Now let's think about this for a moment. I WALK in a vacant area of land, then a monster appears out of thin air and I have to fight it. I can't run away either. What bullshit. No wonder they stopped making games like this."

    These people actually exist. No joke.
     
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  10. 90s Gamer

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    I certainly don't agree, in fact a lot of gamers of "the old days" have been neutralized and follow the ridiculous trends hook, line and sinker. Gaming is not for everybody, no matter how much certain companies have tried and continue to try their best to instill this idea on people.

    There's nothing wrong with elitism.
     
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    Man, they've scraped at FF7's corpse for so long it's almost like they're now running electricity through the left over bones to squeeze another cent out. 7's done. Please make a NEW game that doesn't suck.

    I was over 7 in the 90's when 8 came out. It's beyond annoying to still see it hanging about after multiple console generations. It's there if people want to play it but the parent company needs to put some distance between them and that game and MOVE ON.
     
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    Random encounters are a big pile of bullshit, though.

    Not gonna happen, Squenix are in financial trouble and beating the dead horse that is the overrated FFVII is cheaper than making a new game. Besides, the only good game they've released in years is Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which they didn't even develop.

    If playing video games is such a big deal to you that you're willing to think it makes you special, you should really rethink your life.
     
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  13. 90s Gamer

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    It isn't only the case with gaming. It is with everything. Look at music. How many times has the masses ruined pretty small, intimate and yet great things because "it was cool to be this way (even cool to be uncool)"? The masses are clueless morons, and whatever they do, they always ruin great things. They are the stink on which corporate, passionless parasites can depend. Just because once in a while I watch a football match doesn't make me a football fan. And so it is with everything.

    When you really love something and are truly passionate about something, you will not tolerate the violation of it, and you'll defend it. It's like you will not allow burglars to take your precious possessions away while you're witnessing the crime. I speak out because I care. It doesn't make me popular, but I don't care about that.
     
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    I guess you've been gaming since the 70s since you can remember the times before the masses ruined everything.
     
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    Time is of no importance. You can be a teenager today and more hardcore (dedicated) than older people. I am talking about a state-of-mind and a passionate heart. I am talking about the difference between the mindless go along to get along consumer and somebody who's truly into something. Mindless consumers always need things like advertisements and charts for them to decide what's good, they will never look beyond the surface of things. Only triviality rules the mind and heart of such people. They're lazy and tasteless. I hate them with a passion, always have.
     
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    My point was that gaming has been a mainstream industry at least since the late 70s, so it makes no sense to complain about the masses unless you can remember those days. Brings to mind the people in the documentary Chasing Ghosts who complained about the games of the late 80s and 90s. Also, of course teenagers can be more more "hardcore" than older people. That's because they do jack shit with their lives, so they've got plenty of time to play video games. (And I'm assuming that with your post you practically admitted to being a teenager, which would explain a lot)
     
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    I personally wish game consoles with internet features never caught on. I miss the PS1 days...

    Days you never had to worry about servers, dlc, add ons, etc...
     
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    I don't own a 3DS or a Vita, because I have no need for one. I have an iPhone that works fine. Does it play games? Does it play music? Then it gets the job done for me.
     
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    The reason why the FF remakes aren't coming to Vita should be simple to understand: it's way more profitable to release them on phones than a dying handheld. 3DS is a different story, though...

    You realize you're talking about video games, a pretty damn shallow form of entertainment, right?
     
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  20. 90s Gamer

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    There's nothing shallow about it as far as I am concerned. But that's beside the point. The point I wanted to make was that it doesn't matter what your passion is; be honest, find a passion. Don't pretend to be something you're not. You can be a stamp collector for goodness sake, and dedicate your entire life to it. What right do I have as somebody who doesn't collect stamps, to call myself a stamp collector? What right do I have to invade a certain group of music fans and annoy them with my music? None. Zero.

    I am talking to a SEGA Saturn-fan here? Man, this is weird. The Saturn was freaking underrated in the West because of *reasons I gave*!

    Oh, and the Vita ain't dying! :p

    Sony: Dedicated Fans Keeping Vita from Getting Shelved

    See what I mean?

    Well, have a nice weekend.
     
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