USED GAME HAPPY DANCE (Sony confirms no used game DRM for PS4)

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  1. 7Force

    7Force Guardian of the Forum

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    Don't forget putting "PS2 Classics" up for sale on the PSN store, but not allowing to play your old PS2 games, forcing you to rebuy them if you want to play them on your PS3.
     
  2. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    It appears many have forgotten what sony did with the PS3. They are not an angel like everyone is reporting with the PS4. It's all a marketing stunt.

    Microsoft is not allowing used games - Sony "WE DO!"

    XBOX One has TV features! - Sony "OUR CONSOLE IS FOR GAMES ONLY"

    probably other guff I can mention but it escapes me right now.

    OH! Yeah the Kinect when it was first released, Sony had a reply for that too... But legend has it, they created the Move...
     
  3. AcidKid

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    I honestly don't feel comfortable with the fact that it's " up to the developers " to choose whether they want to impliment DRM or not, I can possibly see EA just completely start a bromance with the Xbox One ( it's building as we speak as seen with exclusive content ) which just bums me out.

    I'm just suspicious that other developers/publishers will follow suit with the matter, hopefully Take Two Interactive can let others see the light: http://au.ign.com/articles/2013/05/31/take-two-ceo-comments-on-microsofts-plan-for-used-games
     
  4. Unknown-Organization

    Unknown-Organization <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    Nobody forcing you to buy Classic PS2 games or HD classic PS2 games. It there on PSN with easy access to it. It good for those who never played the last generation PS2 titles in the past.

    Get PS2 Console or get a early PS3 model then problem solved. The opportunity layout is there for you for nearly 8 years !
     
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  5. SuperGrafx

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    Used games....

    I guess I'm the only one on here who loathes used games? I guess I am averse to used games as a result of seeing the disheveled selection (and minimal price savings) at Gamestop.

    I'll stick to new games only, thank you very much.
     
  6. geluda

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    Sony are probably too busy working on REAL security to have the time to implement all these new features and limitations into their new console.
     
  7. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    If the PS4 has no region locking (like the PS3), no used games / DRM bullshit, it will probably my next gen choice. Whenever i get a new console, that is.

    The Xbox One, so far, has region locking, used game drm lock, online game registration, mandatory online system verification, TV, Sports, TV, Sports, TV, Sports,... To sum things up it's a console for the US market, as most of it's features are for US residents only.
     
  8. takeshi385

    takeshi385 Mojarra Frita Bandit

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    Isn't Bungie making a new ps4 game? This may be the return of the giant. I also would love to see Nintendo come up with a console that is not built around a cheap gimmick ,but their next chance won't be for another 4 years at least.
     
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  10. geluda

    geluda <B>Site Supporter 2012</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    Which is exactly why exclusives mean nothing to me when it comes to console choice. I'm not spending £400 on a console just because of a couple of exclusives I'm going to play for 10 hours and then never play again, the console has to suit my needs and last me a whole generation, not just for a quick buzz and never to be used again, which unfortunately most consoles seem to do for me these days.
     
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  11. blotter12

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    It's not JUST about used games! It's about borrowing/lending/trading. It's about bringing a game to your friend's place. With Microsoft's system in place, where it ties games to your account/machine, you're going to have to bring your whole console over.

    What happens when the system is "dead" and there are no new games in development? What happens when Microsoft turns off the verification servers? Imagine if NEC implemented this on your namesake system. You won't be able to buy (and play) any games on eBay, and imagine having to pay again to "unlock" all those huCards you have already to play on your new system... Oh wait, that's moot because NEC has been sold and thus you can't even contact their verification servers to pay to play the games anyway.

    What a bleak and horrible future we live in. =\

    I'm pleasantly surprised Sony announced this. Now it is up to the publishers to do the right thing.
     
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  12. synrgy87

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    alot of games i wouldnt have given a chance or a second look if i hadn't been able to buy them used and probably wouldnt have even bought an xbox360 or wii without the option for used games. but as the right honorable blotter12 stated its not just about buying them its about sharing trading and social gaming. eg if my friend want to lend say underdefeat hd to my friend to check out right now i can or if i want to bring it round to his for a game night then i can without any restrictions or bullshit.
     
  13. sploit

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    I am pleased to hear that the others aren't following Microsoft in implementing this 'no used games' thing so far. Though it is a shame they feel the need to in the first place.
     
  14. 7Force

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    You completely missed the point, which is that if they really were for consumer freedom, they should allow you to use your actual PS2 discs, considering it's apparently possible to play PS2 games on any PS3 rather than getting a failure-prone early model/being a sucker and buying one for $599 when there were no games.

    The verification system will be cracked at some point and you'll be able to play your games like normal.
     
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  15. Vosse

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    EXACTLY.


    Now, on the PS4, they could most 99% likely achieve near perfect emulation of the PS2 and PS1(Especially PS1 considering how good it is on PS3) since it's so powerful! And offer users to be able to play their discs no problem. But no, they have to monetize it somehow . YET they completely miss the fact they could offer PS1/PS2 Classics AND allow people to play their own games at the same time.

    I own a ton of PS1 games but I still buy PS1 classics.


    And if Homebrewers on PC can emulate the PS1 and PS2 pretty well (In higher rendering resolutions too no doubt) There's no way in hell Sony shouldn't be able to do it with much more ease on PS4 at least. (Though considering you CAN technically play your own PS2 games on PS3 now if you have CFW)


    And all of this is without considering the fact that Sony was retarded and is only allowing PSMove compatibility and NOT DS3 compatibility on PS4. Because the DS4 doesn't have pressure sensitivity, which many games rely on. Yet they are touting PS1 and 2 streaming?


    For all the things Sony does somewhat right they do just as much completely wrong.

    WUT.
     
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  16. Unknown-Organization

    Unknown-Organization <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    While I respect your opinion

    End of day It is PS4 console...so at lease I expect to play PS4 games and focusing on PS4 games only . Nobody buying PS4 just for backward capability. Sony done backward capability on PS2 and PS3 and I think it time they should drop that feature and move on . Again I wouldn't say a failure on early models, sure it didn't have much games to begin with.
     
  17. Vosse

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    It's fine that you dont' care about BC. But some of us do.

    Backwards compatibility is an important feature. It's been around as long as Video games themselves almost. From Arcades, to consoles , to hand helds.


    People want to upgrade to play new games while still being able to play old games.
     
  18. Unknown-Organization

    Unknown-Organization <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    No, I do like to have a backward capability and retro games but surely you can't keep expect Sony to make a perfect PS4 machine or pleasing everyone . Sony might aswell name it as PS Ultimate instead of PS4 If they add all backward capability feature.

    If you really want to play old games then get PS1 or PS2... which is the reason they are exist in the first place. I can't see anything wrong with that.

    Backwards compatibility is an important feature in this day and age for newer gamers ? It was important seven years ago but not so much now I don't think. Time has change but still It would be nice if it does support it.

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    Not quite, Still supporting PS1 backward capability from old to newer PS3 models, In case you din't know.
     
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  19. synrgy87

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    indeed look at atari and sega they designed their systems with backwards compatability in mind eg the7800 will play 2600 games and the mega drive / genesis / gamegear will play master system games, nintendo too. the ps2 etc but yeah its a nice feature that makes a new console more attractive and practical purchase. both microsoft and sony knew this with the ps3 and xbox 360 and both canned their backwards compat support once consoles had been selling.
     
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