UTUBE blocking music videos in the UK

The online video sharing behemoth YouTube has announced it will be blocking most music videos in the UK after negotiations with the royalty group, Performing Rights Society for Music, collapsed.

The site said the PRSM was asking for more money in licensing fees than was reasonable and therefore the talks collapsed. The previous licensing contract with the group expired earlier this month.

"We were shocked and disappointed to receive a call late this afternoon informing us of Google's drastic action which we believe only punishes British consumers and the songwriters whose interests we protect and represent," PRS CEO Steve Porter said.

"Google has told us they are taking this step because they wish to pay significantly less than at present to the writers of the music on which their service relies, despite the massive increase in YouTube viewing."

Google responded: "We're still working with PRS for Music in an effort to reach mutually acceptable terms for a new license, but until we do so we will be blocking premium music videos in the UK that have been supplied or claimed by record labels. This was a painful decision, and we know the significant disappointment it will cause within the UK."

 

So what either google loses users and we dont get to see 90% of the shitty music videos put out every year or google loses some more money to pay people for their work. Win Win i say.

 

I can't possibly agree more. I hate seeing tons of shitty music videos on Youtube...most video game videos I see have crappy music in them.

 

Holy COW did the PRSM put a spin on THAT! Even in the above snippet it's obvious that the PRSM was "raising the rent" and Google balked. So they blocked videos that the same record labels complained about. I would not call that drastic at all.

It's unfortunate that videos are going to disappear, but it's solely because of the interference of bullies like the MPAA, RIAA, and (now?) the PRSM.

 

Proxy servers are your friends

 

Where did this come from? they are removing UK music videos, This has nothing to do with getting around stupid filters or blocks.

 

i hate that in the U.S. an Averil Lavigne video is the most viewed ALL TIME. and the video quality isn't even very good compared to some of the HD videos now. it just makes me sick. i miss the old YouTube.

 

Maybe I misunderstood

As I understand You Tube is blocking Music Videos if you have an IP address from the UK.

In which case the best go around for that would be to use a Proxy to view the offending content.

 

Only until you pick up a microphone, guitar or learn to programme MIDI and then release something. Then, PRSM becomes your best buddy for protecting your hard work.

I guess it really does depend on which side of the fence you sit on.

The vast majority of YouTube music videos I have ever seen are ripped directly from MTV (or similar) and are of seriously dubious quality.

Might be something to do with the fact I look up such old material.

 

... What? I don't understand, why are they done for?

 

The problem is Musicians have stopped being Musicians and have become Buisnessmen. Even classic bands like metallica that were all for copying and stuff because they needed the publicity have become it (did you know when Lars Ulrich went after napster he owned a share in a major record label) I remember a time when metallica condoned us copying the disk handing it out to our friends and passing on the good word of Metallica. Why? They needed the publicity.

Youtube/Google do things for 2 reasons it makes them money or it loses them money what google are doing is not saving their asses but their assets

 

The way I see it is the Record Labels need to be able to invest a huge amount of finances into large bands & artists. They have historically made more than their fair share and perhaps there is an argument to suggest that major labels have done a lot to damage the reputation of the industry. However I think it's just easy to pick on artists and say 'You already have enough', but you don't consider it a bit dumb?

I mean I'm all for the free distribution of as much material as the artists / labels can afford, but frankly they are and always have been a business.

From the time of wandering minstrels, buskers and pub acts they've never been free even if you are the type to enjoy and walk past without placing a coin in their hat or giving the financial side of music a second thought. Someone is always paying for it. Just because you don't doesn't mean that this is the right status quo.

Films, records, games all have to be financed and controlled by someone and if not then eventually you'll have a lot less made available and it'll invariably not reach a mass audience and people would be saying 'Metalawho?'

Everyone starts off naive and Metallica were no different, if you read the bands history. There was a time they'd be happy to play to a room of 30 people, but that's long gone. Most major artists no longer need to be paid for their art in terms of them being able to live, but I am wondering whether that means we should just simply stop paying them? Do we have a cut off point, are we to be so involved in their financial dealings that we are critical if they have a vested interest in the industry they are part of? Many films stars bankroll smaller films, or have a finger in production companies and musicians are exactly the same.

Not having a go at anyone specifically here as frankly I think the generation I find with the majority opinion is this new bunch of youngsters who've never known the joy of waiting for months or years for a particular release by a particular artist, walking through the record store door (a place I remember being like a temple). Having the tactile object right there and it being so fragile you had to cherish it otherwise it got scratched. You'd peel it from the sleeve and hold it and not breath on it. Music has been diminished in my opinion as it is just so immediately available and accessible.

It was a time you got sleeve notes that actually meant something. When an artist toured it was an event. Now we don't even have 'Top of the Pop's' and nobody buys singles. There is less allegiance to artists and I find it hard to accept my daughter's generation who struggle to know who they even like or why.

I don't know about you, but these days nobody has any respect for anyone and least of all their heros. They just seem to want everything but for free, which must leave those artists cold and feeling pretty pissed off! Not only that, there not even particularly bothered if it's the original, they're quite happy with a shitty ring tone in poor quality.

If you love the music, you should pay your respects and cross the palm of the hand that gives you that pleasure.

The counter argument that musicians don't deserve to be paid handsomely for their efforts doesn't make any sense to me at all. Cut the record label out of the situation and you are actually saying to your favorite band 'I don't want to pay you!'

 

I do cross the palm i Buy Metallica and my favourite albums ive bought their Vinyls when i can

 

Yea I feel the youtube we all enjoy is done for, We cant even put a homemade movie on there with music so stupid, I made a small movies for my school using no name bands and they still removed the music off the video when I put it on youtube, sorta sad since Its not LIke I can put a song on there and everything will be alright. there are people talking through alot of it, They muted the whole video tho.

 

Its a bit of a pisstake when you upload a dog playing on your lawn out back with 5 seconds of a song in it and they mute or remove it as it massively effects the amount of money they make from the song.

 

As stated not directed at anyone in particular, just a rant about it ;-)

 

I don't see why they remove music videos do to copy infringements.

I mean if you really like there music your going buy it sooner or later and support the band and artist.

I agree the quality of some of the videos really sucks all the more reason to buy. Sometimes it takes forever for a video to work another reason to buy. Who wants to wait forever? Not me!

 

Youtube is suffering the fate of any technology that's adopted mass scale, first it was recordable cassettes - the industry moved away from that due to eays copying, then CD - abundant CD burners meant copy protection, initially MP3 players didn't have a scent of DRM, now they're laden with it (worst case: new Apple iPod Shuffle with auth chip in headphones!)

Napster, Kazaa etc - all raped when adopted and now YouTube...

Sure it's not likely that anyone will make a playlist of videos to replace audio files (i.e. a playlist of tracks they like) but it's just common logic -- when a technology is embraced to the point that your average 40+ yo knows about it, it's heavily scrutinised and disected by the industry...

Youtube is fuxed. So many videos being taken away for a multitude of reasons... it's always going to be cat and mouse, Facebook will be targeted next...

Having worked in the music industry I see both sides of the coin, on the production side it isn't just the rich rockstars who are losing out on money - disipating the whole "they have enough money" idea... what about the studio time / engineers / song writers / producers / runners / tech staff... they aren't millionaires.

The problem is, as ever - even in the unreleased gaming community, people seem to think they are somehow entitled to anything they enjoy / want and that paying should be optional.

 

As much as i dont agree with the choice apple made your just talking trash. The chip is not encrypted and anyone who wants to make one can make it. You can also use a normal set of headphones to listen to the music without having control as well.

Either way it has nothing to do with DMR or the music industry and all to do with apple wanting to generate more revenue from hardware.