UTUBE blocking music videos in the UK

Hmm, obviously you haven't read in context, am fully aware of the chip being unencrypted, but the fact it's there at all is a sign of where we're going. I was referencing how far industries go to lock down devices/media usage. Let's see if that chip is so innocent a few incarnations down the road.

 

Sorry i dint know apple forced you to buy their hardware and wouldnt allow you to buy the 8 million or so DRM free tracks they have. Did amazon stop you from buying their DRM free mp3s as well?

I couldnt care less what apple do with their chip down the line. For all i care they can solder on their headphones to the shuffle, ipod, and iphone. All customers will do is not buy them and buy a product from someone else who doesnt do that.

For someone who worked in the music industry you seem to have little information on what your talking about or just choose to ignore the facts of what your talking about.

Copyright infringement and DRM are two totaly different things.

 

On that note alone, your not entirely correct! You and I both know that unless the original song writer has sold the rights to their piece of music and/or lyrics, that it doesn't matter who releases the track they'll always be making the money where as the covering artists gets a fraction of it.

That was one of the whole issues with bands such as Procol Harem, for example. The keyboard player sued the rest of the band because he wasn't getting the same royalties from "Whiter Shade of Pale" that they obtained as he never wrote it. His defense was that he'd co-written the track.

He claimed that his contribution, that being the legendary organ parts that pretty much defined the song were all his idea.

That's an aside issue, however you can't off handedly suggest that song-writers are actually bottom of the pile, while the musicians are raking it in. It can actually be that bands who appear to be successful either have low cash flow, are bankrupt or have various members who's contracts stipulate that they are only entitled to a percentage of the overall takings.

When it comes to the music industry I think a lot of people only see the stuff on the surface and would hate to know what was going on below. It is and always has been a financially driven, cut throat industry where there are more losers than winners.

Yep!

 

Art is subjective.

Music is art.

Subjective matters are not objectively price, but are at the discretion of the buyer and the seller, reaching an agreement.

A music piece at a fixed price is non-negotiable. It doesn't mean it's not worth anything, but it might not be worth X that the publisher is asking - in the buyer's subjective view.

When you can't bargain though, better to get it for free =)

 

I think The Grateful Dead's attitude was the best. Buy the records, pay for them! If however you come to a concert, by all means record them. In fact set up the most elaborate recording devices and just take the recording out of the air after all you paid for a concert ticket so you are entitled to do it.

Some of those bootleg GD concerts were fantastic and if anything, only served to enhance the following they had.

I think they reached a pretty good compromise and I wish Jerry Garcia was still around to give his take on the whole copyright issue.

 

@ Parris, yes the song writing aspect is subjective, but as the old adage goes - 'change a word, take a third' etc...

@ Paulo, you need to chillout, whether or not my quoting Apple's inclusion of chip was related to DRM was in error or not (i.e. misinformation on my part) it wasn't the point of my statement - yet you've submitted two replies on that one statement alone (?)

Oh and by the way, I didn't know that working in a studio meant I had to be 100% of the hardware of MP3 players. Obviously a prerequisite I didn't meet ;-) Apologies for not meeting your exacting standards!