VGA Grading gone too far!

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  1. corranga

    corranga Rapidly Rising Member

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  2. MottZilla

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    Unknown thousands. They wouldn't throw away product over a minor mistake combined with when they actually would realize the mistake.

    I love the Fire Emblem 3DS VGA auction. That's a great example of stupidity.
     
  3. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    VGA has no credibility now. this has been confirmed
     
  4. sabre470

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    Providing they had any in the first place...
     
  5. DrAfrokid

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    I think this is pretty insane! for a sealed copy of FF VII
     
  6. Lum

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    Unless there's a link between these sellers and VGA, it has no relation to the group's own credibility or not.
     
  7. anime4ever

    anime4ever <B>Site Supporter 2012</B>

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    Does VGA grade just games or do they grade boxed systems as well? Not that I will personally every use VGA but Id be interested in knowing what the return value is after subtracting the cost of shipping and VGA's fees. Obviously there will be a variable depending on which game and the condition its in but there must be an average increase (though with some games selling for insane amounts it would probably be hard to track).
     
  8. Lum

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    Consoles may cost more, needing a larger case to fit into. Whether you'll earn more after grading is up to market factors. VGA doesn't appraise items.
     
  9. sabre470

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    You are probably correct, where I have an issue though is that the sellers are led to believe that they can sell a very common game for an obscene amount of money just because it's been looked at by a 3rd party who said yes the original seal is intact, it looks like it's in good condition and let's put it in our box for good measure. If they were selling that same game for about $150-200, my thinking would probably be different. You pay a premium because it's sealed, fine. $2,500 is a hell of a lot of money for that premium, if people are prepared to pay that amount of money, fine by me.
     
  10. Lum

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    I'm just trying to encourage sticking to a logical point of view.
     
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    I get that, very fair!!!
     
  12. PFG

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    It's not VGA leading them on, it's the moronic buyers that are.
     
  13. Lum

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    I dunno, hard to say what titles it's justified for.

    I mean how many copies of older games in such condition really remain on the open market? Most left sealed would have noticeable handling and shelf wear.
     
  14. camdman

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    I was thinking whats not to say the VGA people take your games out before they lock them in the plastic so you pay for the privillage for them to take your game and sending you back a empty container maybe with a rock for weight. With Cart only games whats not to say they pull apart the cart and change pcb's. Once the game is sealed I doubt anyone would risk their investment opening the contents.
     
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    With regards to the Fire Emblem listing, don't get mad at VGA, get mad at the suckers paying a premium for these.

    The same thing goes on with baseball cards. Cards that you can still find at retail go for 10x higher prices if they are graded 9-10. Maybe some people don't understand the market (so they shouldn't be buying), but I guess part of it (and I'm reaching here) is that people are paying for the convenience of not having to go through the grading process... I looked at VGA's site. The process seems a little expensive and complicated. If, for some reason, you think this game, in this condition, is gong to be a worthwhile investment, then congratulations, this listing is for you. Otherwise, invest in something safer :)

    Also, keep in mind this hasn't sold yet.
     
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  16. PFG

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    And what's to stop any random eBay seller you buy from from doing the same? Seriously, your reaching a bit with that conspiracy theory. Not to mention most experienced sealed collectors can spot reseals from a mile away, and they'd have to actually replicate any damage your specific item had after reselling it. And that's not even considering how worthless 99% of the games they grade would be if they were cart only... I doubt they'd risk making their business go under so they could take a $2,000 sealed Mario game, open it, replicate the specific sealing method/material used for that game, reseal it, and sell the loose cart for $1.50 on eBay.
     
  17. wombat

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    I don´t get why so many keep on complaining about VGA. Clearly there is a market for VGA graded video games, hence the graded copy´s of games fetches an premium on eBay. If you don´t like it, just ignore it, or exploit it and turn it into your own benefit as an revenge haha.
     
  18. MottZilla

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    Woah slow down there! Just because you see someone listing one of these things for insane prices does not mean it will *ever* sell for that amount. Mainly all we've seen is crazy expensive listings. I have not see anyone pointing out actual sales.
     
  19. A. Snow

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    I fucking loathe these grading companies. I swear if I ever won one of those 200-300 million dollar powerball lotteries I would set up a factory in some third world country and start cranking out perfect reproductions just to crash sealed game market.
     
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