Virtua Fighter 2 for ps2 emulated>????????

Today segaxtreme posted news that virtua fighter 2 for ps2 is emulated, this is based on a page that is tooken from segas website that explains some of the making of this port, and baisicly the person who posted this news on the main site said a friend of his translated the page and baisicly its emulated due to them not having all of the orignal code. You can check out the news story posted which is right here http://www.phantasy-star-universe.com/ and the sega page itself that talks about this http://www.sega.jp/community/segavoice/041014/01_4.html well this is some exciting news indeed, I'm curious if anyone is gonna translate the page talking about making the game for ps2.

 

On an off note he says hes got fighting vipers emulated for the pc... anyone got a link?

 

so, sega wrote a Model 2 emu for PS2.... that's madness!

Perhaps all that hard work was for the next batch of the SEGA AGES stuff.... lets hope we see other great model 2 games like virtua cop!

Now that i think about it... its not such a crazy idea.

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That is a pretty awesome technical feat to produce a model 2 emulator for the ps2.It shows the coding prowess that Sega still have.

It also shows the ps2 can still do some pretty nice tricks when coded for properly.It really is starting to shine in it's later life the ps2, it has gave me some of the greatest gaming memories I have ever had.It continue's to amaze me technically and seems to have caught up with the Gamecube and Xbox in terms of graphics and effects with the recent games such as Killzone, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Sega Rally 2005.Maximo and it's sequel...superb, GT3 and 4 ...superb, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3...superb, Winning Eleven series and Gradius 5...superb, Jak and Daxter, Initial D, and Gradius 3and 4 ...superb, not forgetting the wonderful Castlevania Lament of innocence.The list goes on and on and the ps2 really is a MUST own system now, to kid yourself on that it's not is utterly insane and is depriving yourself the joy of plying some of the greatest videogames ever created.

Do yourself a favour and own all four of the current consoles...Dreamcast, Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox and before people tell me Dreamcast is not current; it still has software in production for it (Chaos feild and other dating sims) and is therefore a current 128 bit console regardless of it's production status, the console is readily available in it's only active territory(Japan) so there is not an excuse not to own that as well.

You do need to get a ps22 though Yakumo :smt045

 

I got Virtua Cop : Elite Edition for PS2 :smt083

 

that be Virtua Cop 2: Rebirth i think... under some odd PAL name...

Might be wrong!

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From what i read, from hands-on opinions, the game is not smooth and the framerate is low.

:angry

 

Well heres the skinny, the slow framerate is due to the fact that the arcade ran at 57.5fps(and supposedly people at sega felt the saturn version was a little too fast. Second its emulated, so its possibly going to be off due to limitation of emu and hardware, this post at gaming age forums compares the difference side by side with the arcade and ps2, it then goes with people examining why the port is this way, its a good comparison and read http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=19027&page=1&pp=50

 

Thanks for that link sayin999. It just goes to show thatthis isn't emulation. If it was emulation then it would look 100% the same in the stills but those PS2 textures look like shit. Why the hell did they completely change the Temple's textures? It makes no sense. Is this another result of lack of texture pushing power?

Yakumo

 

Say Yakumo, how much does this game retail for over there, out of curiousity?

 

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2 options.

A. Fucking crap ass porting job. Seriously if Sega can't get a Model 2 game running properly on the PS2 they suck ass. If a gen 2 PS2 game like MGS2 can look that damn good and Sega can't get VF2 running properly they need to learn the finer points of PS2 programming.
Wouldn't be surpised as Sega are renowned for poor PS2 programming.
By the way. If you honestly think the Model 2 is capable of anything the PS2 isn't you are fucking kidding yourself.

B. The PS2 is Emulating Model 2 hardware. Even if it's only emulating at 1/2 speed that pretty impressive.

On another note the PS2 shots from that link are frame grabs. The model 2 shots are from a Digital camera.
If I took shot of a TS movie off of my PC screen with a camera as well as taking a screen grab on my PC guess which will look better.
In other words, Direct screen shots will *always* show up more errors and inaccuracies then one taken from a camera.

 

Its not emulated, I've been playing the PS2 version over the last few hours and the textures are terrible, The PS2 version looks quite poor to be honest.

Its just a bad port with an erratic frame rate.

 

2800 yen before tax. Pretty sure that's the price range. If not then it will be 2500 yen before tax.

Sega have nothing to do with the PS2 Sega Ages 3D games. THey are programmed by a 3rd party company. All other Sega games look wank on the PS2 because of 1 main reason. Most of them were made for the Dreamcast originally which gives the PS2 great problems when it comes to textures.

Yakumo

 

I stand corrected. It's still a shite porting job though.

Meh...the texture excuse doesn't really hold any weight with me. I'm yet to see a DC game with textures significantly better then those in Tekken Tag, and that was a launch game.
It's not that Sega just flat out suck at programming. I just think they haven't had the time to learn the finer points of the PS2. Which would not be surprsing considering all the internal troubles they've had over the last few years and the complexity of the PS2 architecture.
AM2 eventually got it with VF4:Evo. It went from being one of the jaggiest games on the PS2 to one of the most beautifull.
Just have to hope it spreads through the rest of Sega.

 

one question: is it faster than virtua fighter 2 on saturn?

is the game still enjoyable? (yah...i know, its a second question..)

edit: is this an arcade perfect convertion? (yeah....3rd.)

 

Yeah as much as I love the good old Dreamcast, it has nothing to touch the best looking ps2 games in the texture department.Unfortunately there is some jaggies in alot of titles but they aren't nearly as bad as people make out and hardly noticable when you are looking at some gorgeous textures.

The dc was great and all but it lacked the triple a titles tha it needed from developers.

Also the ps2 port seems to be a rush job and they should have programmed it into the ps2 directly instead of using emulation.This is what Sega gets for not doing this.Compare VF4 evo with Vf2:sega ages and you see my point.To call this an estimation of the ps2's power's is not only laughable...it's downright desperate.

 

I dont think it's fair. DC was killed when the first third gen games were in development, so its full power was never used...



PD

 

So true. take a look as first gen DC games like Soul Calibur and then first Gen PS2 games. The DC titles not always but mostly look much nicer (through VGA anyway). Shenmue II is a prime example. that was in production before DC was even released and certainly looks better than any 1st gen PS2 game. I'm not saying that the PS" is less powerful than the Dreamcast because we all know it isn't. I'm just saying that the Dreamcast really never had the chance to meet it's full potential.

Yakumo

 

You must be kidding.
Aside from aliasing issues Tekken Tag trounces Soul Calibur and VF3(Character models, textures, stages).
GT3 destroys Sega GT and Rally.
FFX does similar to the early DC Rpgs.
Gen against Gen the DC has no hope of going against the PS2 graphically.

No it's not. It came out nearly 3 years after the DC's release. Doesn't matter how long it was in development for it still nearing 3rd gen.
Would you compare Doom 3 against PC games from 99 or 2000. It was after all in development for 5-6 years.

 

Tekken Tag Tournament? Is this some kind of joke?

I've had it since Japanese launch and must have touched it twice, The game has no style whatsoever and you guys are rose tinting on the textures as they really are not as good as you are professing.



Ugly game, Stylistically poor.