What should Nintendo do now?

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  1. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    24 hours ago Nintendo was in a good postion it was a two console Race and at the very least the WII U could have been a console that would complment people's PS4.

    Then Steve Balmer threatned to beat up the XBOX team after Gamestop was going to pull the XBOX One and now we're back to a three console race and Nintendo is in trouble again.

    What does Nintendo need to do now?

    F-Zero....made by former Psyginosis staff.
     
  2. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Nintendo can do nothing with current product.

    Cannot lower price of console as they are selling at loss.

    New systems will be near same price, much much more powerful

    3rd part support is dead, far faster than wii.

    So what to do?

    Bundle more controller
    Bundle with game or games
    Redesign and make cheaper


    What I think:

    Redesign and make cheaper as soon as possible.
    Bundle with game, drop price to $249

    Still not sell....
     
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  3. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    The WII U has so much promise and it hasn't sold like shit either 5 million in less than a year is pretty impressive. I really want one but I need some games to play one it besides Bayonetta 2 and Sonic Lost world. There could be some unique game play experiences but Nintendo's teams need to put effort in and not just shove another Mario up our ass. Remember when a New Mario was a huge deal? Now we get a new Mario game every year and it's the same shit. The WII U is going to be a Supplemental console there's no getting around it. Nintendo has a rich history and if they just revived some IPs, and worked with Sega and had Sega commit a few good exclusives. they might be fine.

    Also F-Zero. WHERE THE FUCK IS A NEW F-ZERO?
     
  4. Golan Trevize

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  5. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    VG Chartz is unreliable.

    EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE is demanding a New F-Zero. yet Nintendo refuses and thinks all we want is Mario Mario Mario and MORE Mario.
     
  6. Golan Trevize

    Golan Trevize Rising Member

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    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20037961,00.html?cid=recirc-peopleRecirc

    You've had great success in your ability to predict what players will find fun to play. Have there been games that you thought would be fun but didn't turn out that way?


    Yes, that has definitely happened. In the past we've worked with some outside development houses on titles like
    F-Zero and Starfox — and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, but the games themselves did not deliver. And, well, to be honest with you, Zelda: Twilight Princess is not doing very well at all in Japan. It is very disappointing. But it is doing okay here in America.
     
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  7. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    Don't forget the Gamecube did not sell very well at all either one of the lowest selling systems in history if I recall Something like 28 million a decent number but still small compared to the Monster of the generation the PS2. This still doesn't change the fact the people are demanding a New F-Zero and Nintendo isn't listening.

    Not listening is why Nintendo is in the mess they're in.
     
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  8. Golan Trevize

    Golan Trevize Rising Member

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    You can't blame them, they tried to be old Nintendo back with the Gamecube and nobody bought the system. Now it's all Mario and minigames.
     
  9. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Nintendo systems are slowly becoming walled gardens, full of Nintendo IP much like a Disneyland.

    Fantastic and wonderful until you step out of the boundary of their small kingdom. A built in audience in a slowly shrinking universe...

    Why do people buy xbox and ps3? For AAA titles. Nintendo's machines are no longer capable of
    making AAA titles that will be dominant in the era of tablets, phones and next gen consoles.
    The WiiU's pathetic attempt to be more powerful has backfired.

    Too expensive to sell cheaply, too under powered to sell well.

    They are in the sargasso sea of the sega saturn. Too expensive, but too weak.

    Handhelds sell less and less and less with each generation. They willfully ignore phones and tablets at their peril.

    Why does nintendo have game delays:

    Nintendo is used to having 40 people on a game, if even. Now with Wii U graphics, they need 200 people.
    They have 5-10 1st party games, and clearly cannot hire 2000 programmers. They consolidated recently
    to streamline and get more work done. They have admitted to failing and being unable to get games out the door
    as they had planned.

    They outsourced games to intelligent systems, who were former nintendo people who wanted more
    of the money than a meager Japanese salaryman's pay.

    They even branched out to western talent at Retro studios.

    Nintendo is in the situation of having to support the WiiU by itself for it's entire lifespan.

    3DS has unique appeal as it is 3d, but people have overwhelmingly rejected 3d. So a new handheld would be
    a console in the era of the tablet, smart phone and streaming.

    Soon you will have the people we know and cherish retire or die.

    The day miyamoto dies their stock will drop and like apple without jobs they will struggle and put out
    products that are not game changing. Just as samsung is slowly eating apple's market share,
    the first really good gaming phone will decimate the nintendo handheld market in Japan.
     
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  10. furballdc

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    As long as wii don't get a 1022883 we'll be fine. :wink-new:
     
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  11. xdaniel

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    About F-Zero, and leaving sales numbers aside...

    Wasn't that just mainly how Miyamoto himself was disappointed about how F-Zero GX came out in particular? And speaking of him: Miyamoto Puzzled As To Why Anyone Would Want A New F-Zero; "I thought people had grown weary of it"

    As much as I like Miyamoto and his creations, he should have nothing to do with nor say anything about F-Zero.
     
  12. A. Snow

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    ASSEMbler summed it up pretty spot on. The one thing I would add though is the casual gamer aspect.

    Nintendo wanted the casual gamer market and they went after it with the Wii. It worked too. I know people who bought a Wii who haven't bought a new system for a long time as I'm sure many here do.

    Too bad they did it at the detriment of the traditional fanbase because now their decision to focus on casual gamers is biting them. They should have realized that the casual gamers they coveted the Wii generation are not the people who buy their system the next generation. Those people don't see the need and are more than happy to keep playing Wii Sports a decade from now.

    Nintendo essentially traded in many of their long term customers that stuck by them for short term profits and now they are dealing with the fallout. I know more than a few people that see WiiU as just another gimmick system with the same recycled games. Only now in a resolution that they should have had a generation ago.
     
  13. M. Bison

    M. Bison I'll see you all at 3:15!

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    After his Paper Mario: Sticker Star hijacking, I don't want him near Mario anymore either.
     
  14. la-li-lu-le-lo

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    I think the new SSB game is going to be a major selling point for the Wii U. If Nintendo were smart, they wouldn't have waited so long to release it. They could make a ton of money if they released it this holiday season, but it's delayed until 2014. I still think people will buy the Wii U just for that game. Super Mario 3D World looks cool as well, but it's not exactly what I expected in a Mario game. I'm still waiting to see a new 64/Galaxy-style game. I would be very tempted if there were a game like that.
     
  15. 7Force

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    A new Fire Emblem, F-Zero, Custom Robo, Eternal Darkness...of course, this just what I personally want to see. Even though it sells, I couldn't care less about stale crap like New Super Mario Bros. or Item Lottery...I mean Mario Kart.

    What? Not even close.

    Yep, but Nintendo pissed away too many franchises in the Wii era to be old Nintendo again. Now they're just milking the same few series over and over.
     
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  16. GodofHardcore

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    SEE NINTENDO EVEN 7FORCE AND I AGREE WE NEED A NEW F-ZERO! Hell we even agree on Nintendo over milking franchises. So if we agree on something. Then there's a problem.

    OK I admit too that maybe the Gamecube wasn't a huge bomb but what I meant to say was that the Gamecube was not the runaway smash it could and should have been. It was also the last time Nintendo had relatively powerful hardware in it's era.

    While not as huge a problem as sticking to the status quo, Their virtual console pricing is too high. $5 NES games when for a dollar more I can go on PSN and get some PS1 classics. If they lowered the prices of VC games like they have recently to a few cents that would help reel in the retro crowd.

    The 3DS will keep Nintendo alive. But They're in trouble. The XBOX One failing could have worked in their favor but now that it's going to be successful Nintendo really needs to get their heads out of their asses and realize what they have and get to best utilizing it.

    I'm pulling for Nintendo for the first time in well EVER. But it doesn't look good for them.
     
  17. synrgy87

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    they just need to pump out the games it's as simple as that. their e3 stuff looks promising just need more of it. + the current titles are enough for me to still want a wii u
     
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    If Nintendo remade F-Zero X Expansion Kit for 3DS I'd buy the console for that game alone.
     
  19. sanni

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    $199 Wii-U New OoT style Zelda bundle and I will buy it :excitement:
     
  20. GodofHardcore

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    Remember this Tech Demo?



    We all wanted this they said NO just a tech Demo...then Wind Waker HD. It's the Gamecube all over again
     
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