Why everyone hates America...

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  1. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    silverbolt, where did you hear that Osama was an evil CIA?

    Iraq thinks we attacked ourselves just to create a new war with them. the real culprit of hatred of so many countries is their damn gay media- telling half truths and whole lies. im not saying the media lies all the time, but their media has made them firmly believe that we blew up our own buildings.

    im sorry but this isnt "1984" with an ugly old man yelling "I want You" in a very creepy way towards an uglier woman. :smt040

    and fyi "1984" was a book about how govt.s control their peoples minds.
     
  2. id-republix

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    By reading the facts. It is widely known and widely acknowledged that the US through the CIA funded and trained Osama and his troops in Afghanistan solely with the interest of defeating the USSR's attempted expansion.

    And you're saying your media is any better? The US media is nothign but a lpdog of the state, and has demonized and dehumanized an entire people and nation, just as it did with the Japanese in WWII, and constantly pumps out proaganda, lies and outright bullshit ona dialy basis.


    To be very, very frank I am not convinced of the US' claims on who attacked on 9-11 myself. Where is the trial? Where is the public, hard, solid evidence? When the US itslef is attacking and literally raping entire nations on the basis of one man and organization against whom they have STILL not provided definite evidence, what ARE other nations going to think? What ARE they, exactly, going to speculate?
    Don't be so naive so as to think this thinking that America attacked itself is rstrocted to the Middle East. The first bok on the matter was published in France and was a best-seller there, and there is much sentiment across the world that the true events of 9-11 have been covered up. This is what happens when you do not release ACTUAL PROOF, and ESPECIALLY after the US nonchalantly admitetd the case for war on Iraq was a fraud?

    ALL media has an agenda and is consequently full of BS and propaganda.
     
  3. Evangelion-01

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    agree...
    btw. they are running out of oil in alaska my friend :)
     
  4. Alien Workshop

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    Wow, I don't know how to spell, but I already knew that. I fixed all my posts just for you.
     
  5. Alien Workshop

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    If all media has an agenda and is consequently full of BS, then your so called "facts" are BS and you don't know what you are talking about... and you don't.
     
  6. id-republix

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    Your spelling, my friend, was hardly the point.
     
  7. Alien Workshop

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    I know, but I was pointing out that I can't spell very well, and that I fixed all my posts.
     
  8. id-republix

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    You are a child, and so your laughable points refelect. The fact that Osama was funded/trained by the CIA, and that Saddam was puppetedd by the US, are facts from declassified documents and independent sources. Even your government admits to as much.

    Why deny what you aren't even - clearly- educated about?

    I find it sad that so many Americans equate patriotism with defending ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING your government does, while branding any accusations against it, no matter how true, as 'bullshit'. And you call yourself free?
     
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  10. Alien Workshop

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    No, I am not a child. This coming form a person who lives in a neutral country, and knows nothing about the US. You, and Cahaz don't even have a right to be talking about this because your country has to hide behinde its neutrality. You complain about how bad the US is, and how the world is in such bad shape, but the fact is your country will never do anything about it. At least we are trying.
     
  11. Mr. Casual

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    SO, let me get this straight. ALL of the media lies so there is no way to know which facts are true or not:
    the only reason everyone is pissed is because they believe their lying media. OR somewhat lying, anyway.
    the way those iraqi prisoners were treated from a few bad people show america as a whole? No, it doesnt. I was mad at Iraq when that guy got his head cut off, but i started thinking instead of listening to the propaganda. does Every Iraqi want us dead? No.
    are some of them glad we are there? Yes. just because they get mad at us for what a few people did and a few of them do something bad in return.
    in my opinion the media will most definetly spread the flames of hatred until all hell breaks loose and a nuclear holocaust happens.
    i love my country, USA, and i sometimes think to myself- if we didnt do anything to help countries, we would be isolated.
    now im talking to europeans- we saved your ASS TWICE!!!
     
  12. Alien Workshop

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    This is why we don't need an area for political discussion.
     
  13. id-republix

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    It is Americans like you people, who ignore the monstrous evil that your government has wreaked on other nations and turn a blind eye to it and defend it at any cost, that will bring about even more war, death, and hate than the world is plagued with now.

    1. I did not say all media was a lie; I clearly said all media has an genda and is full of BS - not that *all* of the media reports is a lie. Clearly, this is not the case.

    2. Mr. Casual, Alien Workshop, and all you other individuals who defend the US at any cost - GET ONE THING STRAIGHT :

    THE TOTURE, RAPE, AND SODOMIZATION BY US TROOPS WAS *NOT* A CASE OF 'A FEW BAD PEOPLE'. IT WAS A CASE OF TROOPS FOLLOWING ORDERS FROM RUMSFELD AS PART OF AN *OFFICIAL* POLICY OF SEXUAL HUMILIATION TO BREAK FOWN OCCUPIED PEOPLES.

    This was not the same as a few demented people in Iraq salughtering innocents (who shouldn't be there in the first place). It is a case of ALL US TROOPS BEING UNDER THE ORDERS OF THEIOR DEFENSE SECRETARY AND BUSH TO SEXUALLY INITMIDATE, HARASS AND TORTURE occupied peoples. There is no comparison. This makes all uS troops accessories to the illegal occupation and official sexual humiliation of a nation.

    3. Again, Mr Casual, Alien Workshop et al - I find it extremely laughable that you ignore very single factual accusation made against the US government's official policy of torture and sexual sadism, as well as proven murder of innocents.


    Your love for your country, or for the US, does not necessarily entail your defense of your government's every wrong and having the gall to ignore these wrongs every time they are mentioned and instead blurb out more propaganda-ridden official line. It is indeed sad that you can't so much as see that the US government has their - not your - interests in mind and nothing else, at whatever brutal cost, and that you continue to defend them at whatever cost.



    Canada is far from a neutral nation; a satellite for US policy would be more accurate. Furthermore, don't think that whatever you think or want makes a shit's difference in how any govt.' acts . Don't give yourself the credit. YOU aren't doing a thing besides providing support to a morally bakrupt government anbd military that constantly tearsapart human rights worldwide. Give yourself a pat on the back.

    Furthermore, who the hell do you think you are to tell anyone if they have thre right to spreak on this issue? Litlte wonder you cra elittle of the US media's blatant lies and censorship; you clearly think you have the right to tell people what they have the right to discuss.
    I speak against the US abuses of human rights that people like you so conveniently ignore *because it is the rights if human beings thatare being abused*. If you have no care no concern that the US has absolutely ripped apart the human rights of Iraqis then you have lost your humanity.


     
  14. Alien Workshop

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    I find it laughable that you think you know more about the US than people who actually live here.

    Where did you find your "facts" hmm... Did you find them on the internet, or your one sided news channels. I am sure you know you can't believe everything you read on the internet, and you said yourself that all news is corrupt. So, according to your logic, everything you say is a lie. You know nothing.
     
  15. Paulo

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    Not to want to get into this childish bullshit you all endulge in...

    How does using his argument about all news and internet being BS help your argument about knowing something because you live there?

    Im sure you get your BS information from the same sorces as he does...

    So really you all know nothing! And im your king... so start the :prayer: !!!
     
  16. id-republix

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    You are an idiot. I am commenting on US foreign policy, specifically torture and sexual humiliaiton policy, I continue to clearly cite the actions of the Bush admin. as opposed to the US people, and you ocntinue, like thje idiot you are, to ignore the sick horror your government has afflicted on Iraq, and make comments like the above that completely betray your stupidity. Somehow , though, you feel qualified to comment on what is good for Iraq when you don't know shit's worth anything of the Iraqi people, and can't so much as spell the nation's name.

    Thee's no point in wasting words on your ilk. You are what you are, the lives of other nations will remain worthless to you, and you will be blind as you are blind, and it is indentured servitude to Bush like yours that wil help your government cause more detah, rape , and horror worldwide.
     
  17. Evangelion-01

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    LOL, this is sooo damn funny xD, you dont know shit do you? beleave me, everyone else that is not from america knows more about stuff that you probably do, because your media is soo damn censored and your friggin gobernment hides everything it cans, and you call yourself free ehAHEhaehaHEhaheHA
     
  18. Yceman

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    Er... I think this topic is about to be closed :smt017
     
  19. Tachikoma

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    A man walks into a doctors office, and say's:

    "Doctor, Doctor, im having trouble with my cross stitching, my yarn keeps stopping mid-way"

    "Ah" said the Doctor "you are suffering from a case of thread lock!"

    This got old really quickly!
     
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