When sellers are showing pictures of debug, beta or prototype CD / DVD games they feel the need to take pictures of the disc on a table or something rather then in a case, where the CD might be safer? h: I mean if I was going to buy something like that, then I would feel a lot happier if the games were in at least plastic sleeves or a case and why do most sellers also never mention the condition of the discs? I mean the developer might have been using the disc as a coffee coaster before it went into the wild.
Go on then I'll bite :icon_bigg To be honest there are both good points. Not really sure why some sellers do put disks on tables without decent protection for the actual important side of the disk and for your second point I agree sellers should describe the condition of the disk, but I suppose at the end of the day if you don't like the advert don't buy.
The important side of a cd-r is the label side. Scratches on the bottom aren't a problem. If you scratch the top then the data is gone. smf
Likewise with arcade PCBs and prototypes. You'll often get people taking a picture of them on, say, the carpet, which will do them NO GOOD WHATSOEVER!!!! Geez, couldn't they use an antistatic bag, to show they actually looked after them?
I see your point..but for debug, beta, proto especially condition would be academic really. You either want it or you don't. For one of a kinds condition is irrelevant.
I'm sure if you had two prototypes the same price but one had been used twice and stored safely in a case and another had been used a a convient coke can coaster and had been left on a desk and shuffled around, I am sure you would rather go for the latter then the former...
Well most likely any sane person would take the better conditioned disc, but what's the likely hood that anyone will have 2 copies of a proto and sell them both??
Exactly. If you don't buy what you can get who's to say if you'll find better. As long as it works you can back it up straightaway.
Or even worse: EPROMs or other static-sensitive chips pressed into regular styrofoam. I've seen a lot of peolpe do that with collectible chips... While I may not be a huge deal if you only want the chip to display, still...
This is a typical paranoa of people who do not know much about electronic. I never ever hear or even see someone to erase/break a chip with a static electric, not even when I worked in a factory, which was making a car radios and there was chips/eproms everywhere. There is even that small statistic chance to break a chip with static electric, that you can take your chip with you in a pocket and nothing happened. Of course it does not looks good when you want to sell something and you take a picture of the item laying on your carpet, but it does not have anything to do with breaking the item with static electric. You need a lot more then a carpet to generate a potentional danger static electric charge to break/erase a chip/eprom etc.
Never once killed anything by static and rarely do I use any anti-static wrist bands. Some of my computer hardware got stored in plastic bags that generate tons of static, still work.
Most recent integrated circuit electronics have static protection designed in (which is intended to dissapate static charges before they get into the main circuitry where they can cause damage). ICs actually have to be able to withstand a number of industry standard static tests without suffering damage, or crashing (if already in a powered state). It is quite possible to kill/damage ICs with static & even if the device still works, it may well be weakened & more likely to fail prematurely at a later point. If the IC has no/poorly implemented static protection, both these scenarios become more likely. So, I wouldn't completely diss the concept of handling electronics with some care with respect to static. Sure, you can get away with things a lot of the time, but there is a reason for those static protection bags & wrist straps.
believe it or not but i can put a CD down on a table, completely unprotected, and pick it up again without scratching it!! h: took me YEARS of pratice (and about 600 copies of re1.5, thats why its so rare) to resist the urge to wipe it around like a powersander on the tablesurface but i finally did it! i dont store my CDs like that but if i ever have to take a picture of it i might wip out my special skills.. kinda like mr miyagi.. i dont go around using em all over the place, only when i absoluteley need to.
I don't know why someone with something rare like that keep it like that. I would have them like holy grails XD. But thats just me.
yeah me too :110: if i collect something rare, i will try to keep it away from everything and everyone, just to watch and worship ray:
I believe that they to do that to prove that they actually have the product if it was in the original case then they could have just taken the picture from the web but if they have hardwood floor or carpet or something it the background it shows you that they do indeed have the item
There is a plenty ways to prove you actually own the items and you do not need lay the disc/chips on a carpet. A simple piece of paper with your name or web etc. do the right thing.
I agree with the point of this topic. I will usually not buy a game if they put the disc on the table or carpet.