Why not release old stuffs?

But I have said suing an 8 year old over downloading music was ridiculous but it happened. In this day and age if you are not careful with big business you have a good chance of getting burned.

 

Are you trying to compare the RIAA's stronghand tactics against mass piracy of widely currently commercially available material to the minescule distribution of obscure development documents relating to long dead machines?

 

No.. I used that as an example of what we thought would never happen did and to make a point on what you may consider riduculous may not be to me.

 

I was wondering if in the NDA there was a clause which allowed the devkit to be re-sold to people who didn't sign the NDA.

The comparison with the ferrari isn't good, as Alchy pointed out, because you'll still have your docs, even if you scan them. In fact, besides the legal problem, I really don't agree with your point of view : you buy something which is rare, "to preserve it", so, you won't sell it anymore. If the document become widely avaiable, you thing its price will decrease (even if I don't agree with this : some old videogames are expensive, even if their roms are avaiable). But, if you don't want to sell it, does it matters?

There is still the legal problem... But, be honest, who never downloaded something illegal?

 

NDAs usually preclude you from releasing anything into the public domain that is not already in the public domain, in perpetuum. This is not like copyright in that it will expire 50 years after the authors death, it's a written contract that agrees on secrecy. This contract also covers hardware.

At some time in the future any of the manufacturers may reuse some of their technologies, for instance in a handheld unit or set-top box. In this event they do not want any information in the public domain that would make it easy for anyone to counterfeit their goods. As they don't know in future what information may help those people, they try to protect all of it.

 

OH NOES!!! They'll sue 6 billion people and they'll all be "at their mercy".
Seriously, I tried actually reading this thread but everybody but Alchy is just rehashing the same - false, imo - arguments over and over. I'm wondering how many of *you* actually procured your "items under NDA" the proper way, I know there's some who did, fair enough ,but there's also this guy who appears to be selling stuff from his former employer, how fair is that? Next time somebody else comes around and ask a simple question let's play elitist prick again.

 

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Well,anti,fact is that as i have said again 90% of the people who post here on dev related stuff have no idea and no capacity to appreciate what they are talking about.That's why the simple question turned into a mess...If they knew anything they would talk about substance and not about things we have talked a thousand times before....The guy that started the thread was obviously ignorant,but the answers that followed...there were even some guys that said things like "We paid for the SDK (yeah right) and we won't give it away or its ours and we just want to impress"...Get a grip...

As for the "Some people aqcuired stuff in a legal way"...well,noone here has aqcuired anything legally...An empolyee (whatever the rank) is a far different thing from the company he works at and has licenced the stuff they use...I even remember someone who sold cds with source code from a well known game...So much disrespect?How the fuck was sth like this allowed...

Really,this forum section is really pathetic...the only thing that keeps me is the possibility that *certain* people might post stuff about really rare hardware...And if you ask me...too much bullshit and "forumers" around...2 years before it wasn't like that...and there are people here who can still remember it...

 

hehe even though I did the post it didnt stop me sticking my stuffs on the FTP though Not my fault the FTP was poorly maintained and it stayed in the upload folder forever =/

 

here iam a little confused dont know if i think of the same game then you
i think of turok (dunno which part) which was on sale cds with sourcecode and you could even obtain a license or so for publishing it legally and the game was bought of the companys bancruptcy auction i think so it should be legal or not ?

 

Icould buy some of this marvellous thing since i do work, but at the moment i'm just happy looking at photos, earing stories and commenting like an idiot like i'm doing now.
and i can really understand Assembler; when you have worked for something, 3-4 months and finally get it, it becames you little big treasure something that makes you think over at all the hours of work you poured into it...

and thinking that someone can access part of it for free... it's not nice, trust me!

 

Well, if you have some development hardware that comes with (digitised) documentation or tools, upping them to some anonymous FTP is not going to hurt you. Heck, thanks to antime there is some sort of Saturn development scene (albeit small), he even put his real name on the site (which has plenty of PDFs with "SEGA CONFIDENTIAL" written all over them). Has he been hunted down and maimed by corporate ninjas? Has his investment decreased in value? I think not.

 

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antipasta,you're losing your time...

 

I remember hearing something like this on the old board, about how some company wasn't too happy with something you did. Im somewhat interested to know what happened (but if it's a touchy subject, don't worry about it).

Now that makes me want to ask alot of questions. But...I must...resist >_<

Whoa, you created a company to find and buy rare and/or unreleased game items? *head explodes from sheer concept*

 

I'm what?

 

hehe thougt the same like you about the questions

but on the company concept why does there the name gavroche blink in my brain in big red letters, maybe its not a sooo good concept at least not to make money of it

 

Heh i try and resist asking Assembler questions, but I cant help it sometimes


If someone wants to release something they own, so be it. But i dont think anyone should get on their case if they dont....thats my view from what ive read of the thread hehe

 

So even if you own an intelectual property and everything related to it, your still not able to do whatever you want with it?