Wii mote?

@Logi26 Do standard wireless controllers work with the Wired RVT-H at the 8 inch distance?

 

No, standard retail controllers do not work with the wired RVT-R at any distance, but they work with the wireless RVT-R.

It has been said that the wired controllers are just modified retail controllers:

But the internals are not identical. The Wired controllers have "TEST PAD" printed on the PCB and reading the doc's there are differences such as sync timing, remote status and battery life.
An as I have seen, the internal antenna is not completely bypassed it responds different to the wired/wireless systems.
There are probably firmware differences between the wired controller and a retail one.

 

Do you have pictures of the controller's PCB? I can't find any high-resolution images to compare.

I'm going to solder a coax cable to a retail controller and give it a test on an rvt h, if I can find decent pics to use as a reference.

 

I posted some pics of mine here: http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/good-surprise-with-a-npdp-cart.63901/page-2
But I have already attached a wire to a retail remote and it did not work.

I assume you have a wired RVT-H but no wired controller?

 

Cool. I guess that saves me some time and solder.
My other plan was to replace the Bluetooth module with one from a regular Wii.


Correct about the controller situation. Got a deal on a wired rvt h, but don't have a controller for it.

 

I may consider swapping one of my wireless RVT-H's for a wired version if it is in decent condition.
Depending on your location it may not be worth it, but if you are interested drop me a pm.
That would probably be a better solution for you than trying to replace the BT module.

Since I now know that the wired controller and wired systems do work wireless (Although its only about 8 inches), I might setup a Bluetooth sniffer and try to capture data to compare with a retail controller/system.
I was also looking into the WPAD lib to see if there was a way to distinguish the wired remote from the retail one within an application.
There is a function called WPADGetInfo which returns information about the remote. The function has options to return the protocol and firmware of the remote but the docs say that those values are not used.

 

A bit more info that I have discovered.
There where at-least 3 revisions of the NDEV that where available. NDEV 2.00, NDEV 2.01 and NDEV 2.1

NDEV 2.00 is the wired version of the NDEV. It uses black wired dev remotes referred to as (Dev Tool Version 4)


NDEV 2.01 is wireless and it uses black wireless dev remotes referred to as (Dev Tool Version 4 Wireless)


NDEV 2.1 is the wireless version that everyone seems to have, it works with the white wired dev remotes referred to as (Dev Tool RD3 Wired) it also appears to be the only revision that works with retail Wii remotes.

 

I swapped out the bluetooth module with one from a retail wii.

Retail wireless remotes now work with no trouble.
It looks to be like the wireless remote connects directly to the wired bluetooth module.
The sync button on the back just bridges 2 points on the main board which are not present on a retail board.

Interestingly enough, the sync button on the front appears to function differently than the wired sync button(judging from how they are wired). The sync button on the front will sync with the wireless remotes now.