with the gaming market going to hell in a hand basket.whos going retro only?

i think going to focus grabbing older stuff like ps2 and ps 1 stuff from japan then see what else catches my intrests.

 

That's what I've been doing and will keep on doing for a long time... There's a new game every now and then that catches my attention, but I'm mostly looking for good ol' stuff

 

same here. looking into my sega saturn being used to play imports.

 

I wouldn't say going to hell. It's just going to shit.

 

I've been doing that for years now. During half of the current gen, I've been sitting it out and spending my time on the classics.

 

When you've been in to gaming for the best part of 30 years like I have you see these types of threads pop up all the time. Games are not going to hell or shit. The level of good to shit games is always pretty much equal. It's just the taste of the gamer that changes or that a gamer's wanted games aren't released which makes every other game shit. I have a very healthy 360 games library that ISN'T filled with FPS games. I must have about 50 games in total for the system.

Yakumo

 

Most of my 360 games are XBLA games MOST of the fighters and almost all the region free shmups (Missing DDPR and Echatos)

 

well i cannot remember my snes or genesis ever breaking like my 360 did this past week.
the more complex they machines and games are, the more i lose interest... then unless you want to play ONLINE you get what, 6-8 hours from a game that isnt an RPG?

Then unless you are a completionist, there is no replay, just a bunch of achievements to hit, but no real replay value.

 

to me the problem is more of how to entertain the new generation, which means as things change we get a new type of experience.

1. game budgets get bigger
2. advertising gets more aggressive
3. companies need to sell $250 million of product to make a profit.

in "the day" a good game wasn't expected to be a franchise, out on an exact date, and to ship and move a certain amount of product.

IMHO this all changed when Mortal Monday, Sonic Tuesday, Jam Wednesday etc took center stage. With the exception of Sonic 2 each of those titles were arcade games and they needed to make awareness and market them as console games.

Now the game type has changed as well. Missions are shorter, action different. Look at how Resident Evil has changed. Would RE1 sell as well TODAY as it did when it launched on the psx?

So to me, games like darksiders are few and far between. When there are good games like Ratchet and Clank that are good platformers, along comes some move attachment or some online version of the game to keep up with the times.

Sony and MS arent dumb. They must know the games sell BETTER with these components... its just that i personally dont want to play them that way.

 

This man speaks the truth.
Listen to him.

 

I don't own any current generation hardware (unless the DS or PSP count), and I certainly don't intend to buy into the next wave of consoles, either! Heck, we don't even have a HD television or the need for one, though we're currently considering one of those hard drive television recorders, despite the fact I already have a decent capturing rig. Anyway, the fact is that my house is almost entirely retro exclusive and full of great variety - why break the bank keeping up with the CODs and FIFAs of this world when I can enjoy the classics and spend more on other pursuits in life? Besides, for me the gaming world started heading in the direction of hell - in a handbasket, no less - when Sega pulled out of the console market, but I can appreciate that not everyone will agree with such a biased perspective.

 

I respect Yakumo's point of view and he may be right; however I'm pretty sure most of the big and huge game developers are like most companies: they got so greedy that they want to make more money with each game, spending as little as possible, and releasing the game as quickly as possible. This was not the case with previous generations of consoles. And although this is most likely seen at a game duration and bugs level, I'm sure it also affects game quality (depending on the game type or genre, the area that gets the most impacted).
I may be wrong, but I still think this is pretty much accurate.

Of course, there are still awesome games coming out; but I'm sure that statistically there's a higher percentage of crappy games every year than the previous one.

 

To paraphrse from a blog at Crash Lab, you can make a game at most two of these three: "Good", "Cheap", and "Quick".

The issue with large companies goes something like this. They have their short-cycle moneymakers, in the past usually things like movie promotionals or sports titles, plopped into existing engines with as little modification as necessary. They usually recieve the least amount of QA in the end.
Then there's the long-cycle games they actually care about enough to want to attach their name to. These will remain in development for several years and hopefully be somewhat unique. They also receive the greatest part of the advertising budget and usually will either be intended as a stand-alone license or proceed from one. They'll also have the greater number of dedicated programmers and unique features beyond those built into the generic engines they're based on.

As budgets and production costs have increased, so has the necessity for them to produce more short-cycle games. Plus, as production times between long-cycle titles increases there's a tendency for marketting to want to put a few short-cycle titles from the same license out to keep up interest or cash-in on the success of the previous title. They haven't realized yet that this illustrates remarkable ignorance of their target audience.

 

There has been very little recently that I really want to go out any buy new... the last new new game I bought was probably Trigger Heart Excelia Enhanced on the PS2.

However for the price of 10 new Xbox / PS3 game you could easily get over 100 decent PS1/PS2 games...

 

Many games are of better quality than those glossy high definition Virtua Cop with movement controls (hi COD) that companies pulls out these days, so I mostly buy retro stuff. But there are great games too, denying that would be ignorance.

 

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Today on FB I was talking about How I wish I had friends that are as into gaming as I am. one guy who's a friend of my brother and I've known for a while said "I'd be that friend if you played anything besides First-person shooters" (probably thinks I play nothing but FPS because I put a lot of COD videos on YouTube...since it has built in uploader lol)

I was like LOL dude, you've seen my collecting of games. I'm pretty sure I'm not playing Battlefield 3 on my NES.

Then I uploaded this picture with the caption "I only play FPS games" to spite him

 

Game budgets are out of control. It's so bad top end games get multiple studios working on them. Even with assistance from existing engines and assets.

Trying to use infuriating "set piece" type difficulty, or collect-a-thon (badly implemented achievements can count), as a crutch for short repetitive games isn't helping either. I don't play other games to receive Dragon's Lair (QTEs) or Pokemon (collecting stuff)! As for difficulty... "COD hard" is not at all the same thing as "Ninja Gaiden Black hard". One is just frustrating, about the fastest way to make me put DOWN a controller. The other ranks among the most acclaimed games of all time BECAUSE it is so tough. (to be fair I myself am not skilled enough for NGB)

A simpler more manageable creative approach seems good to me.

 

LOL you have indeed a healthy 360 collection going on but i have seen your games played list on live & theres some not so stellar titles in there too (hehehehe)

I'm in the pretty much same mindet as you though, been gaming since i was about 5 or so, so it's about 30 years in it too. Theres always been good & bad games right throughout. I'd never stop buying new games as i like new experiences, yeah people can argue that it's just rehashes of older games but with better graphics but they still are new games. Totally unique games are not as common nowdays but they do come along every so often to keep things fresh.

I love the old stuff as much as i love the new stuff, i'd never stop playing either. I can appreciate the oldest looking ancient game as much as the most modern too.

 

Totally agree with Yakumo. There are shit games as it always have.
I love playing my child classics but they are not endless. Check how many great games showed up just this year.
Just give it a chance and don't focus on the mistakes. I've had such a good time with Asura's Wrath and I know this game has a bunch of flaws and shit stuff but it was fun and I don't regret.
Or else I would be stuck playing Final Fantasy and Donkey Kong for ever.

 

Asura's Wrath, sadly you have pay for the true ending for it.