Wouldn't It Have Been Cool If...

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  1. sininc

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    Defo.

    I don`t think many realise how big an affect the Amiga had on gaming.
     
  2. TheDeathcoaster

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    1)N64 had CD based Media
    2)Nintendo dropped 64 support earlier and got the Gamecube out back when the PS2 came out
    3)They put a backlight in original GBA's and thusly the GBA SP was never released
    4)Capcom re-made Resident Evil 2 for the Gamecube
    5)Squaresoft had stayed with Nintendo
    6)Castlevania 64/LoD were not released as Castlevania games
    7)Sega Europe never screwed up the Dreamcast in europe
    8)Same as above but with Nintendo and the Gamecube
    9)Valve got Half-life 2 and CS: CZ Out earlier ^_^
    10)Capcom released Biohazard 1.5 as a Bonus Disc in the Biohazard Collectors boxed set for Gamecube

    There are more, but thats the top 10 ^_^ (not in sequential order ^_^)
     
  3. Funkstar De Luxe

    Funkstar De Luxe Fiery Member

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    Sony did do something to video games... But perhaps I exaggerated a little :) I remember the days when playing video games was geeky and sad. Sony changed that completely. I miss those days.

    Tony
     
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    Don't you remember when every second shop wasn't filled with PSx/Ps2 titles?
     
  5. AntiPasta

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    Funny you mention that, I finished Rez for PS2 this morning and I couldnt notice *anything* looking worse than the DC version. (but I havent played that in a while)

    Anyway, wouldnt it be cool if...
    ...the 32X was succesful, went to live on for several years, got 100+ games released and was ultimately merged with the Saturn product line (so the Saturn would be 32X compatible).

    ...the PSX would miserably fail at launch, Sony not deciding to bring the system to the west, it dying after 2 years and becoming a very sought-after collectors item while the Saturn, N64, M2, PCFX or Pippin went to dominate the market?

    ...the Gameboy would have been crushed by the Lynx and Atari would dominate the handheld market only for Tiger to come in with its Game.com (with a *good* screen) and take over?

    ...Sega through some weird brainstorming session invented the cellphone and dominated the face of the earth with game-playing cellphones :smt033
     
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    Err, they've already done that, sort of :smt033 Played quite a few Sega games on the phone now. The latest phones have some really good hardware letting you play games as good as a Super Famicom. And if you have a phone with good 3D aplet then you can play Sega's Power Smash _(virtua tennis), Ridge Racer and stuff like that.

    Yakumo
     
  7. Funkstar De Luxe

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  8. Alien Workshop

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    Perfection :smt023
     
  9. the_steadster

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    I'm probably the only one, but i would love a Nintendo/Sega merger. That really would make the greatest consoel ever, with fenomenal games - think of all the franchises on both nintendo and sega systems - Really would be great. dreamcube anyone?
     
  10. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought they did remake RE2 for the GC? Or did you mean 1.5?
     
  11. Alien Workshop

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    I think when he said re-make, he meant like what Capcom did with RE1 for the GC.
     
  12. Nintendomad

    Nintendomad <h3><I><B>REST IN PEACE<BR>IN MEMORY OF<BR>A TRUE<

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    I think it's just bollocks to say the dreamcast is as powerful as the PS2,it simply isn't,the ps2 can push more polygons period and the production values of most ps2 games blow the Dreamcast's out of the water.This was a major problem for the Dreamcast with games looking as if they had been hacked up in a few months,with none of the overall slickness and smoothness of presentation the ps2 games have.

    Dynamite Deka 2 is a big example of this as well as all the companies who ported games to the console and never used an inch of it's power.

    The Dreamcast had some amazing games with great graphics but they were not nearly as slick as some of this latest batch of Ps2 games.Rez on the Ps2 also runs far better than the dc version and with more polygons.

    The Dc was one of my favourite consoles but half the time it was poorly treated by Sega themselves as well,releasing sub standard crap with no polish or sheen that a firstparty title should have and that Sega are more than capable of delivering.As for textures,the dreamcast can do alot of textures nicer and smoother than the ps2 but the lack of polygons in some of the models made this redundant sometimes,only companies prepared to put their full weight behind the console got the best results from the capable hardware.

    Now that people know how to develop for the ps2 though,it simply is a more capable machine,look at titles such as Killzone, and Gran Turismo 4,these games wold never be possible on the dreamcast.It just doesn't have the muscle.I'm not dissing the dreamcast,it is a great peice of hardware that had some of the greatest games ever developed,but it isn't as powerful as the Playstation 2,it does not have as good a libary of games either,the ps2 has an awesome catologue now and not to get one is to shoot yourself in the foot and miss out on some of the greatest games ever.
     
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    That is exactly what I meant :smt023 Though I would have also loved to see 1.5 released as a bonus disc with teh RE2 on the GC. Would have been sweet ^_^
     
  14. Alien Workshop

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    I think you are sadly mistaken when you say the PS2 is a better games machine than the DC. Just because the PS2 is "more powerful" than the DC that does not make it better. Also, having more games does not make it better either. Sure, the PS2 has a lot of games, but most of them are crap. The DC has a stronger library when it comes to good games. In fact, I buy more DC games than I do PS2 games. Saying system A is better than system B because of graphical capability is fanboyish.
     
  15. Fonzie

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    Umm, kinda food, lol.

    1997------------->
    Would be better if sega released a new segacd:
    2*MC68060 @ 35mhz 2*(> 50 mips > 8k of cache > 32 bits > 3 instructions per clock).
    A 4x cd reader.
    A 32K 640*480 framebuffer + mixing with genny video.
    A 16channel FM & 8channel PCM.
    A 4Mo dualchannel ram bettween the genny & segacd :smt033 (Can't imagine the price of these ram in 1997).

    And a marvelous collection of 2D fighting games!.
    --------------------->

    I would not say that Sony ruined the video gaming.
    I will just say that Sony started the infamous run to the 3D.
    Maybe because the psx wasn't *really* designed for 2D and Sony thinked that the only method to win is to blame the 2d and promote the 3D.
     
  16. Divine Evolution

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    Of ports an such...

    Here I come far after it's all been said, but another great example of the inferiority of ANY port when it's not recoded from the roots is Dracula X/Castlevania:SotN.
    In the Saturn and it's 2D capabilities thread someone mentioned their dissappointment in the SS port.
    In this case you have a machine that handles 2D far better rendering a far inferior port of a 2D game. Bad coding.
    Any mere port of a game will always be playing catch-up through the architecture of another machine (it's practically a game-specific emulator).
    ~Krelian
     
  17. CJPC

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    I think we can all agree (and if not your getting run outta town) that we ALL wish that Sega never GAVE IN and dropped the Dreamcast, and i just HOPE microsoft will drop out, sega will come to its senses, and secretly work on a new kick-ass system, that would take everything by storm!!! (And somethign that was EASY to develop on, no screwey double-cpus!)
     
  18. cahaz

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    don't forget , snk will merge with sega and makes allot of good 2d games on the new kick-ass sega machine! a man can dream , can't he?
     
  19. Nintendomad

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    And wgere once did I say that the PS" was better than the Dreamcast???I said it was more powerful,not a better machine,you obviously did not read what I said.

    You just jumped to the conclusion that because I was saying it is more powerful,I was saying it was better.Who's being fanboyish now???
     
  20. Paulo

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    Erm you said...

    "but it isn't as powerful as the Playstation 2,it does not have as good a libary of games either,the ps2 has an awesome catologue"
     
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