WTB: Dreamcast NTSC-J rev 0

I'm looking for a NTSC-j dreamcast that's in pretty decent condition. One with those fancy heat pipes and metal fan. I'll probably be looking for other dreamcast related peripherals here shortly but I'll start with this first. Send me some pics and prices!

 

the HKT-3000? i have one right here

mine definately has the metal fan/heat pipe i personally just dont want to sell mine as these are really hard to find...

 

It isn't just HKT-3000 which had heatpipes, my HKT-3010 has them too. You just have to make sure there is no 1 or 2 on the bottom.

I'm not against selling it but it is actually pretty beat up (came that way to me) so undesrieable, plus I'd prefer to keep hold of it, but good luck!

 

So far I have two. One is pretty beat up on the entire casing and the other I believe still randomly resets itself after it's been on for about an hour or two as well as having a large amount of yellowing on the top cover. Finding one in decent condition will most likely be a struggle. Thanks for the comments though.

 

That's not entirely true. But much like yourself I believed this as well. There are rev1 units that have heatpipes. I recently purchased one like this. And this was before discovering a few months earlier that a rev1 can also be found with a Yamaha GDrom Drive (found one at a thrift store in this config). Yamaha GD Drives are usually associated with rev0's (I've never seen heat pipes and metal fan with a DC unit built with the more common Samsung Drive.

 

yeah man your totally right... thats why i dont wanna part with mine its literally mint... from time to time i take it out to play some classics

 

That's news to me! I suppose i'll change my listing slightly then. Thanks for the info.

 

No problem. Keep in mind i'm a U.S. native. I own a rev0 unit. Recently i purchased a rev1 unit (with a manufacture date of Feb 2000) that has metal Fan/heatpipes and the Yamaha drive. This was after discovering that a rev1 unit can have a Yamaha drive (they are usually built with a Samsung drive). The rev2 units will ALWAYS be assembled with a revised (and quite shitty) GD drive that was built by Samsung that removed the daughterboard. rev2 units are just awful, but also very light

 

Sounds like someone just swapped the motherboard...

To test it, measure the voltage on the bios chip - if its 5v its VA0, if its 3.3v its VA1.

 

I've thought about this too but its doubtful at least from what I've experienced with personally. I've met a few others who purchased a rev1 unit with a Yamaha drive built in (for the longest i always assumed that rev0 units were the only ones that had this particular drive!). Additionally, The 3 examples I've mentioned (rev0 unit i own, rev1 unit with Yamaha drive and the rev1 heatpipe/Yamaha Drive i own) all have one thing in common... they all appear to have been built it Japan. I have plenty of rev1 units that were made in China,Indonesia,Taiwan etc that have the regular run of the mill Samsung GD Drive.

 

The heatpipe systems have completely different motherboards (VA0) to accommodate the sensor. The VA1 boards do not have the required connector for the sensor. The VA0 also has 2 pins for the fan, the VA1+ has 3 (as it detects the fan RPM, which it doesnt on the VA0)

Dont concern yourself with the brand of the drive - you need to look at what it says on the motherboard, the voltage and if it has the heatpipe sensor connection.

It honestly sounds like something has been swapped to me.

 

Yeah, I know they do.

Actually I do concern myself with the brand or manufacture of the drive. It's actually what originally attracted me to the rev0 unit. The pipes are neat and all but it's the Yamaha GD drive that if find more valuable. They run much quieter. it also seems to run games a lot smoother (games load a tad quicker).

 

Yes, but that doesnt decide what revision the motherboard is - which is my point.

Just because it has X brand gdrom drive, doesnt make the motherboard revision Y.

You need to look at the board to decide what revision it is, not come out and say its a VA1 with heatpipes because its a Yamaha (or because the case happens to say VA1, even though all the internals say VA0). You have already gone against common knowledge by saying there is VA1's with heatpipes (even the OP changed his post) with no facts to back it up.

It sounds like you have a VA0 system in a VA1 case. Its easy to check what the motherboard is and therefore which revision.

Saying things like that is how misinformation starts.

 

Correct, but i never laid such a claim. All i said is that I own a rev1 (or at least a console that indicates as such via the sticker underneath) with pipes/metal fan/Yamaha drive as well as a rev1 that has a Yamaha drive but none of the former.

Once again I never said that!

That's certainly a possibility.

Not my intention. I apologize to the OP

I recall hearing someone (don't remember exactly where) who claimed to have owned a rev1 with heatpipe motherboard and I didn't believe them up until recently. One of my missions is to find another rev1 unit with heatpipe motherboard internals.

 

Above you are again claiming you have a VA1 with heatpipes. Rather than a VA0 in a VA1 case.

Your original post very clearly claimed there are VA1 consoles with heatpipes:

Open the console, look at the board. This will tell you if its VA0 (likely) or VA1 (as you claim). Its not complicated to find the revision - It says it on the board!

 

Most of my VA1 came with Yamaha drives. Drive is a lottery more than association, but they do have slightly different holes for alignment, but screw in regardless

Also My HKT-3010 says VA0 on the motherboard and has no 1 or 2 underneath

 

Ok, I have the latter. Is that better?

Where on the MO can i find this info? I'll check and report what i find.

REALLY!? It's quite the opposite for me and many DC rev1's I've encountered (and I've crossed paths with plenty).

 

And I am pretty sure most of my VA1's are Yamaha too - but I didnt want to say until I had confirmed.

 

Really!? I've notice both you and Legit are from UK EU region. I reside in USA. Might that have an impact on why I encounter SO many Rev1 units with a Samsung GD Drive???

Thanks for the ref pics. Will check mine in due time.

 

i have a japanese launch unit... its a HKT-3000 but no 0 or 1 on the bottom of the unit...