Xbox 1 DVD Firmware Hack Released

http://www.xboxhacker.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=33&topic=684.0

The author of this hack is currently working on the 360's FW and says a working FW will be released soon.

 

Nice. This works on all XBox versions I take it?

Also: "Dont forget to include per game security sector into image.", I didn't realize games each had their own security codes. For playing Games that have been ripped already (The Red Star) is this an issue, or is he just talking about the XBE file?

 

Yeah, the hack works on all xbox versions as long as you have the samsung drive. I think you have to have a raw dump of the game. Xbox-Scene gave a good explanation:

 

Basicly you're going to need a forensic copy of an original disc.

*ProgrammingAce clicks his stopwatch*
4 years 6 months... I'm impressed... not.

EDIT: I suppose i should elaborate...

So far what the hackers have done isn't really all that impressive. All you need to do is look at the "press release" they put out to see how the modded firmware works.

All the hackers have done is forced the firmware to report the wrong media type. They haven't actually comprimised the disc security layer at all. As a matter of fact, they flat out admit that they don't understand how it works.

The reason you need to create a forensic copy is because of the syn/ack response of the copy protection security. Basicly the bios polls the disc and looks for "magic" values in the CRC (Cyclical Redundancy Check) values. Obviously the hackers haven't cracked the syn/ack table yet, which is why you can't use just any burned disc.

From a technical standpoint, this hack is weak. Wake me up when they can bypass the actual disc security layer, the syn/ack response. Until then, this hack is worthless to all but the most technically minded.

yawn....

 

True, in the scope of the xbox this seems unimpressive but it's exciting to see the progress they are making toward the 360. It will be interesting to see how or if MS will counteract this on Live.

 

Without disclosing too much information, microsoft has already created a way to prevent this type of firmware hack on the 360. They're just waiting until it becomes a bit more widespread before they deploy it.

 

Well, what's the fun in sending out an update that only stops a handful of people from running a pirated disc? Much more satisfying to wait until a bunch of time and effort has been expended in creating firmware dumping hardware, selling it, watching a bunch of people buy it (possibly frying their 360s in the process), hack their systems, get it up and running and then just push the update out to the masses in one fell swoop.



-hl718

 

This hack should only be useful for the ones that want to play pirated games on Live. The other modding methods are certainly better. Needless to say, I will still try this out for myself.

 

But didn't some group come out with a hack that involved the user to desolder a firmware chip in the DVDROM drive and solder on a chip with the right bios, to let the 360 boot up with DVDR? The only thing was that you had to have the right equipment (EPROM writer, etc, etc)

 

Interesting. I don't think a day goes by that I don't read something you post Ace that piques my curisioty. The 360 hack is kind of weak anyway. I need XBMC for 360. Fucking MS not allowing streaming video over vanilla XP! That right there would eliminate what most people want it hacked for.

 

Just think of what microsoft can do considering they have complete control of the silicon through a near forced internet connection. Almost all of the chips on the 360 are rewritable on the fly over live... makes for a pretty dynamic protection scheme. That, and the fact they're sadistic bastards... :lol:

 

So, use XBMC for the Xbox. XBMC itself won't easily compile on the 360 as it is, so even if you did have a modded 360 you wouldn't be able to use it.

MS never said that the 360 would stream video from a standard version of XP. It always advertised it as needing MCE (which is only incrementally more expensive than XP anyway and it's cheaper that Pro, IIRC).

I've never understood the logic behind those that complain about a video game system not working as a video player. Streaming video from XP was never advertised or promised as a feature. Why would you be pissed when the final system doesn't do it?

-hl718

 

If they used the barcode on the disc in combination with a unique auto-generated file for a static result, pirating the discs as described wouldn't be an issue. Disc pressing would require the auto-generated file inside the disc to be read before the computable value on the barcode be printet however.

Think about it, any other disc with the same auto-generated file and the box wouldnt run it - due to a mismatch of the wrong result generated from the combination of the barcode and the file.

Debug discs for debug units would have a fixed autogenerated-file since the debug units wouldn't look for the barcode.

 

You've basicly come pretty close to describing the copy protection for the PS2.

The problem with making unique files on every disc is the stamping process. When discs are stamped, you can't have variations in data contained on the discs.

There has been some experamentation with haveing a small "write-once" portion on a stamped disc, but so far the cost to produce these discs is prohibitative. Not to mention they're fragile as all hell.

 

That's not the point. The point is that why would you limit it to MCE from the start when you can potentially make video streaming from a regular version of XP. Not everyone owns a MCE PC but the majority have at least XP Home.

 

Because MCE is already setup to stream video and the specs for a MCE extender are pretty fixed. Writing the extender software for the 360 was simple. It was a set number of requirements and pretty much guaranteed to work. Getting video to stream from ye olde XP box is another story.

Short version is that there are plenty of folks up at MS that thought streaming from XP would be cool, but timelines didn't really work out for it. Is it possible that we'll see it in a future update? Sure. But to bitch about it not being included when it was never promised (and isn't exactly trivial) just smacks of stupidity.

That's like complaining that your bike doesn't come with an engine.

-hl718

 

People fail to understand that Media Center isn't just some application running on top of XP. If that were the case, hackers would have created an installer for XP long ago. Instead it fundamentally changes how the pc processes video, audio, text, and pretty much anything covered under the term "stream" (including hard drive data, interestingly enough).

Anyone who would like to stream video to their 360 is more than welcome to do so, all they have to do is emulate Media Center on top of xp. Look into it a bit and you'll find out that it's far from trivial.

 

http://www.runtime360.com/
I think this is meant to do it but its not meant to be very good quality. It works for dvix and xvids.

 

I was under the impression that Transcode 360 only worked on media center pc's...

EDIT: Aww man... xbox-scene is a real hoot today...

All the noobs are getting pissed off because they know the firmware hack is out there, but no one is giving them an easy way to do it themselves...

 

Sorry your right. Someone had told me it didnt need MCE but clearly it does.