Xbox 360 people get arrested (finally)

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  1. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    They look fairly scary lol.

    These types of people give a bad rep to the xbox scene.

    What they did was illegal, early on I didn't understand and all I thought it was about leaking information. I'm surprised a story like this wasn't covered on TV/worldwide news, since the news coverage here would be all over such a story.

    I'm glad the law caught up with them :)

    The saying goes "if you mess with the law, the law is gonna mess with you".
     
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  2. ASSEMbler

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    It's not on TV because it was sealed, however they did get the first page of the indictment.

    It brings a lot of negative attention and paints xbox scene people in a negative light. Paypal account theft (asserted, but maybe boasting),
    Server exploiting and worst of all fraud.

    So we know who bought the "durangoes" it was the fbi all along and how they thought microsoft would not
    have a fit over this is beyond me.

    Instead of releasing the bios and utils so everyone could make an xbox one and start programming, they decided to sell them and maybe made $15,000 if even that.
    You can't even buy a decent car for $15,000, yet they were proclaiming they would become rich off it.

    I hope they just get some setting straight and not the hammer, the older people will get time for certain. Those lucky enough to be
    overseas certainly won't do jail and will be recommended to juvenile services or whatever they have in those countries.

    I think that the people in the US will be in trouble for sure, certainly looking at a lengthy probation and term.
    Most likely will have to do 36 months at the minimum for the military code theft, perhaps even longer if they shared it
    indiscriminately online and the chinese got it.

    If they were greedy enough to sell it to the chinese intentionally, they may get 10-15 years for espionage but there's no mention in the
    legal papers beyond the fraud charges.
     
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  3. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Little back story: Hacking has origins at MIT, firstly for the train group there who "hacked" toy trains and mixed components to create better trains. Then it was adopted for the people who would all-night so they could use spare terminals for coding. [source is Steve Wozniak, from the leaked copy of Hackers Wanted].

    Then of course there are the hats, White, Grey, and Black which HW also talks in length about.

    There even a certification that is recognized world wide for ethical hacking.
     
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  4. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    This post - is just wrong. There are good hackers. There are bad hackers.
     
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    Been wondering what's happening with SuperDaE (he lives fairly close to me) but it'll take a while I guess. Our court system moves so sloooooow. He'll probably get a slap on the wrist unless those child porn allegations were true.
     
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  6. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Let's say they were not the smartest people by poking around the US Military :/

    With the size of the internet today, there's no way they would've gotten away selling made up XBOX development kits.
     
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    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I don't understand the part about the "fake" Xbox Ones. Were they PCs with Microsoft's firmware and OS loaded on them? Or were they just normal PCs that they led people to believe were Xbox One dev units?
     
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    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    I'm glad to know I'm way better looking than DaE

    Just to let the huge number of women users in this forum know..................all 3 of you
     
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  9. sonicsean89

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    My guess would be PCs with the same components that they put the OS on. Anyone could make a fake PC and get someone gullible enough to think it's a real dev kit.
     
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    cringe
     
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    Probably not. The fkr that killed Daniel Morcombe was a previous kiddy fiddler and did minimal time.
     
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    Hack a game, get arrested, jailed and prison raped. GTFO
     
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    Wtf are you talking about?
     
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    Sorry to bring back an old thread. Anyone have any updates?
     
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    WILMINGTON, DEL.—A Canadian member of a hacking ring is believed to be the first foreign hacker ever convicted of stealing trade secrets in the United States after he was sentenced in Delaware to 18 months in prison.

    David Pokora of Mississauga, pleaded guilty in September 2014 to conspiracy to commit computer fraud and copyright infringement.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...ted-for-stealing-trade-secrets-in-the-us.html
     
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  16. doulomb

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    This is really dumb and shame on them for all this, but at the same time the US justice system is so fucked up especially with respect to computer crimes. Just look at what happened to Aaron Schwartz. These guys needed to get scared straight not serve hard time for this.

    On an semi-related note, I'd love to know more about how they created the hacked durango unit. I'm guessing they were able to hack the internal files (bios, firmware etc.) used by M$ to make prototype units and then they simply repeated the process?

    -doulomb
     
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    The comments in those articles make my head hurt.
     
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    "A hacker is a hacker", nope they where being black-hat crackers, assholes trying to make money by stealing next gen without a general good-cause (thats the asshole part, just stealing to make money)

    I do wonder what info they need, seeing more about the xbox classic and 360 alpha kits getting build, and some interviews/notes/blogpost and whatnot, they broke into MS and got the specs (as in, get this hardware, get that board) and software to run on that box.
    Assuming the hardware was readily available, and MS making it easy for themselves, it could be as easy as getting a "recovery" to run. maybe a debug cable/usb/network or program on a pc to load more/other stuff but MS is realy into the Recoverydisks, Remoterecoverys and manufacturing mode loading software.

    On the bios part, would maybe a bios update or uefi file?
     
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    21st century journalism at its finest.
     
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