At least Microsoft suck up that they screwed up with their systems. Not SONY, $150 repair.. crap crap crap. What's happening with gaming hardware these days?
There's a big difference here. Microsoft eventually put their hands up and effectively said 'yes, we rush released a piece of hardware to market that wasn't exactly fit for purpose so as a gesture of goodwill all 360's now come with a free 3 year return to base guarantee where upon after X amount of days or weeks you will in turn receive a replacement unit that is either new or refurbished, should this machine go tits up, again, return to base and in a few days or weeks etc etc etc' or words to that effect. They didn't really have a choice in the matter as it was proved without a doubt that the machine as it was at release had serious underlying flaws that would in the vast majority of cases cause the unit to fail. Like I said at the beginning, big difference with your above bitch at SONY. Have they released a console to market knowingly with an inherent flaw? No, not at all, you're just being pissy because you bought a fucked up PS3 sight unseen from a complete stranger on an auction site that is renowned the world over for being populated in the main by charlatans and thieves. And the most baffling thing of all is that you're surprised it's fucked. Caveat emptor :thumbsup:
BGA technology under extreme heat, heatsink clamps, with un-leaded solder = FAIL Microsoft when they do repairs, now do the X-Clamp mod and add the extra heatpipe over the GPU. Also reball them, add flux, and add silicone support around the IC's. I think...
I did not want to send my console for repairs. Yes they could fix it, but it would most likely red ring again as this was before they added the extra heatpipe, etc. I would be forever sending it back and forward. So I just sold the two of them as faulty... This was also way before they introduced the 3 year RRoD warranty and I knew that I could do a reflow myself. I think my third is going too. The X/HAHA chip is starting to lift I think. When I play, the graphics become 'fuzzy' sometimes. Still factory sealed with the sticker. However, it is an 2008 model. Besides, I would rather reflow it myself...
I have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life, not because it isn't true. Just because its completely daft. You said you bought it at almost $650. For spares/repairs you wouldn't get over $400, so you lost atleast ~$200. Why the hell would you sell something for such a huge price loss. The red ring thing was quite an epidemic back then and pressure was on Microsoft for a fix. Home fixes were flying around. Surely your intuitive tells you to hold onto something if you're A. losing so much money and B. Could potentially get a free repair.
I did not want to keep sending it back and forward until microsoft figured out that they could add an extra heatpipe, etc. Just wanted to get rid of the damn thing and play my games.
Microsoft seems to have improved its manufacturing process somewhat, but early 360 systems really sucked. My first system, which I bought in 2006 I believe, broke down (RROD) in either 2007 or 2008. I sent it into Microsoft and they fixed it, and it worked for another year or two until it broke down again. At that point, it was out of warranty. Funny thing about the warranty is that it doesn't do you much good if the console just barely outlives its warranty. I got a new model in either 2009 or 2010 (my memory is fuzzy), and haven't had any problems with it so far. But then again, I haven't used it very much. The old 360 models were louder than a Dreamcast, but my current model (I think it's the last version before the redesign) is much quieter. It still makes more noise than my virtually silent PS3, though. My PS3 has never had any problems. I have one of the newer, slim models. I've used it virtually every day for the past 2 years and it still works perfectly. A couple times I heard it make a weird sound (hard to describe), like the disc drive was out of alignment or something. But that was like a year ago and I haven't heard it since.
Blame globalization for the junk we are stuck with today. As long as corporations consistently scour the world looking for the lowest back-alley bidder this is what we are going to be stuck with from now on. Hell, we can't even really trust the "made in" anymore with electronics because some part is going to be outsourced and that will probably be the part that fails...
