XboxONE: Serious issue regarding the game installation?

Yeah man, back in the 90's were rock !

 

I don't know a single retailer in the UK who accepts returned games.

Or DVDs/CDs either.

I've always wondered if this is legal or not.

 

Its not legal, and if you cause enough of a fuss (and quote certain consumer rights) you can take them back regardless of their "policy's".

They just make it as difficult as possible.

 

If the item is faulty you should be entitled to a refund (law in Australia). Usually stores that allow trade-ins will just sell the game as USED. When it's faulty the next person has to deal with it, which is stupid. Some stores also get around both by just accepting the return but giving you "store credit" instead of your money, this is something I really dislike.

 

http://www.game.co.uk/en/info/Returns-Refunds

 

That isn't the same as a 30-day change your mind policy. I understand why they do it, but I still think it's a little out of order.

 

PS3 Games come in Blu-ray, and many (if not most) don't take anywhere near 10GB (though please correct me if I'm wrong). I understand that Xbox One games may be larger due to having better specs to allow better graphics and stuff, but... will most games really take anywhere near 20 GB?
Also, how many games do you play "simultaneously"?
Don't get me wrong, I always prefer storage as big as possible (ie. I rather have all my stuff in there for quick access), but still I don't see a huge issue with 500 GB in this console.

 

This would make sense, but here was a problem with bluray in PS3, it created a bottle neck. Like I mean there's plenty of storage but you can only read so much at a time, so this means title cached a lot on the hdd, or they had game installs. Xbox One could overcome this by having a faster Blu ray drive, or doing the same as PS3 and caching alot of data or requiring game installations

 

I believe that you can play the game right away and it installs in the background while playing it..

 

As other people have said, if the XBox One (stupid, stupid name, incidentally) does need to go online every 24 hours to confirm it's games' ownership, or you can't play those games, then what happens in a decade's time, or whenever, when Microsoft shutdown XBox Live!'s support of the XBox One, as they did for the XBox 1 three years ago? It might end up that unless your XBox One is modded, or otherwise has a hacked way of allowing it to run unregistered (i.e. used) games, then your XBox One, and it's games, are now unplayable to you.

The XBox One might well be the first machine that will have next to no presence in retrogamers' collections, as once Microsoft stop supporting it via XBox Live!, the console might as well be a doorstop. And that is the sort of situation that Microsoft would love, as if you're playing on an older machine (be it the XBox 360, the NES, the ZX Spectrum, whatever) then you're not playing on a game you've just bought for the latest console.

 

They just released a statement saying this:

SOURCE: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

 

The more I read the more I think people are overreacting, Microsoft KNOWS people aren't going to give up their rights and that after this current generation there will be lawyers scrutinizing them from the patent, reliability and consumer rights angles. As much as I am not a fan of Microsoft's video game division I think a lot of this is people thinking that Microsoft is becoming EA Games. I am much more worried about Sony, as much as Playstation is great, Sony has a habit of screwing early adopters and lying about it. Last I checked the Slim 360 can still do everything the the pre HDMI unit could, I can think of at least 5 things Sony removed in later hardware.

 

I took this opportunity to read some views on the matter, considering that people here know what they're talking about (almost everyone).

As a consumer, I see this as extra complexity added to an already complex gaming experience (accounts, gamertags etc). This DRM system does nothing more than forward the interests of those who already make the lion's share in the field and it may be a permanent way of business if public perception allows this to go on. It is unfortunate and I really hope they decide to do away with the disc-check that they claim needs to be made to authenticate ownership of the physical disc.

 

Here's an FAQ about the system too. Although there's a lot of "adding information later" I honestly think most of the questions should just wait till E3, as it really does sound horrible right now.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

 

I don't game much. But I have always like Steam for when my copy of HL2 was lost (or rather not returned...), I was able to download it on my Steam account.
It was genius! I was very happy and my internet was capped the rest of that month... :encouragement:
All this talk of these overzealous DRM checks makes me sick.

 

Dont open it (i.e. changed your mind) - you can get a refund.
Faulty - you can get a refund.

Why should you be able to open and use something, then return it? That makes no sense.

 

Yeah, but the publishers will fucking love it. So if sony doesnt follow MS - they might not get any games.

Its going to be interesting to see which way it goes.