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Discussion in 'The ASSEMblergames Marketplace' started by Calpis, Jan 31, 2005.

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  1. dj898

    dj898 Site Supporter 2015

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    I'm quite tempted to get number of items in Seoul but the biggest problem is getting someone to arrange and ship them to me... I can't use my old man's home in Seoul - he doesn't live there most time anyway - and can't use any of relatives either coz mom get pissed if I do that... evey time I see some interesting stuff in Seoul unless it's small items I have to pass coz there's no way I can store and shipping... :(

    I wonder if there's a service similar to rinkya for Korea... ? o_O
     
  2. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    I disagree. Does EBAY have some sort of restriction to it?
     
  3. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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  4. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    What do you disagree about? That people that pay a premium to live in Japan, and also take the time to learn the langauge shouldn't reap the benefits? Why should someone living in the states that has no clue how to speak Japanese be able to buy something for the same price as someone living in Japan that's taken their time to learn to communicate with them?

    I know that sounds harsh, but I'm sure anyone that's lived there would share a similar opinion. Japan's whole segregated culture is a good thing when it comes to games. If they spoke English and could use Paypal, it would get all fucked up like Ebay is in a heartbeat.
     
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  5. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I have to admit that I feel gaijinPunch has a point. I worked my arse off to get where I am in Japan job wise and language wise. I'm proud to be able to communicate and get things that I've worked hard to get. Nothing pisses me off more then when I'm out bid by someone via Rinkya who doesn't even live in this country. They can't speak the language or even bother to try yet they're getting the goods that I worked to get just because they are crazy enough to throw stupid amounts of cash at it. Yes, I know it sounds selfish and cruel but just thing if you was me or GaijinPunch when he lived here and then see how you'd feel.

    Yakumo
     
  6. Flyinghigh

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    i think you guys are right.
     
  7. Ground Zero

    Ground Zero Enthusiastic Member

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    Stop whining - i know at least one of you guys is selling Yahoo Japan stuff to non-japanese and is making a nice profit of it. I'm sure that you won't bother if that buyer used your service instead of rinkya's!
     
  8. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    You're wrong there because I can't be arsed doing it anymore and haven't done it for months because people want the stuff for practically the same price the auction ends for and GaijinPunch can't do it because he lives in Hawaii. I only buy Yahoo for 1 or 2 friends and make like 500 yen so I wouldn't say that 's a nice profit. Couldn't even buy my dinner with that :smt042 Anyway, I guess it does look like we are whinning but think of this, The day Soul Calibur came out on the Dreamcast I visited 8 yes, EIGHT shops looking for a copy but could I find one? Could I fuck! yet there were people back home in the UK playing it before me! and Lik-Sang selling copies because of the dodgy Hong Kong traiding that went on back then. I remember Hong Kong exporters could get stock while shops in japan couldn't. That was the first time I was pissed at the export scene. Yeah, I was one of those shits in the UK playing stuff before it's Japanese release but it never struck me until I was on the receiving end.

    Yakumo
     
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  9. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    You know dick. As Yakumo has pointed out, I don't live in Japan anymore and haven't for a year. Even when I did, I hadn't sold more than certain items out of my collection for the past 3 years or so. Back in the day, I bought games in both Akihabara and off of Yahoo Japan, and of course I sold them for a profit. To put it into perspective, I made minimum wage as a foreigner at the time, lived by myself, with of course a ton of bills. I did it to make ends meet. You know what else? I undercut everyone and had a ton of repeat customers. I had more out of ebay business than in ebay. Everyone was happy. Lots of people were pissed as shit when I quit selling (for the exact same reasons Yakumo listed above). So where the fuck is the crime in that?

    I'm not saying that rinkya and celga are a bad thing (even though they can be annoying at times, and I know I've always got the edge on any of their bids if it's an item I want since I don't pay their fees), but I'm just saying that it's a good thing they're so pricey.

    Don't be surprised though if surrogate bidders some day get banned. Many are already on black lists, and there's quite a few threads dedicated to them at 2ch.
     
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  10. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    Hmm ok. That seals off everything coming from countries you don't live in, because that's basicly what you're saying. Be glad everybody doesn't think that way, otherwise you'd be paying your ass off for common things such as gas & food. What's more because of Rinkya and Celga the average Yahoo seller makes more money.


    If we didn't have an international market we'd still be living in a way like we did in 1800. Just because someone lives in Japan doesn't mean they're anything better/more/whatever than anyone else. If a Japanse person wants to buy anything from Ebay.com they can also do that, there's no one saying 'wait a minute, you're not from around here! You can't buy!'.

    Sounds real over the top to me and frankly, it is. Think about it.
     
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  11. Ground Zero

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    I agree totally with that. Face the truth - there's no neverland where all the games are only available and cheap for you.
     
  12. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Dont most japanese games say "Only for Japan" or something similar on them?
     
  13. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    That would be a nice place, though :D
     
  14. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    You guys are both missing the point. I didn't say everything shouldd be unavailble to those outside of Japan. I just think people outside of that country should be penalized. Shit, there's PLENTY of crap on Ebay that will not be shipped overseas. Everyone seems to forget this when they bitch and moan about Japanese sellers not wanting to deal with ignorant white people. Also throw in the fact that certain surrogate bidders have had quite a few cancellations, which gives ALL foreigners a bad name... you can read about it over on 2ch. Call me unpatriotic or whatever, but it seems Americans tend to fuck up just about everything online they touch... I just don't want to see that happen to Yahoo Japan. If I was totally against the notion, would I have made it so easy to search Yahoo Japan directly from my site, with absolutely no monetary benefit? No.
     
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  15. Kron

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    If its any consolation just remember that people who use Rinkya and the other obvious options they are paying very high fees for the privaledge.

    Unfortunately we seem to live in a time where people do have more money than sense and people honestly believe that ebay is a realistic source for pricing, If only people didn't limit their options then the market would be far more open.

    Im really getting bored of the way ebay is limiting everything by its western monopoly and people are happy to continue to let it happen.

    Everyone loses.
     
  16. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Well, some of us are trying to help get the other option off the ground. :)
     
  17. Kron

    Kron Gutsy Member

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    And its very much apprieciated!

    Going back to the topic in hand I don't find it a surprise that so many people are keen the use Yahoo Japan as its an incredibly attractive proposition compared to the established western sites and prices the sellers would be expecting/asking from using them.
     
  18. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    That's not really the same statement you posted at 11.38 is it?

    I quote
    As for ebay the amount of sellers that doesn't want to ship worlwide is like 25%.
    Yahoo auctions Japan like 95%. The only point Im trying to make is that I don't understand why someone should be penaltized (or whatever you write it) when buying from Yahoo Japan. Like said, the seller generally makes more money and more money ends up in the Japanese economy. As for 'I must have the first pick because I chose to live in Japan' that's just plain rubbish. You were free to pick wherever you wanted to go and there's no such 'rule' which gives you any more rights than anyone else just because you chose to live in Japan. As a Dutchman do you think I have the first pick if I want to buy tulips for my flower shop? (If I had one) No way. If there's a German company paying more for them, they have them. That's the way business all over the world works and I don't see how that should be different for something like Yahoo Auctions.

    Finally, don't you think the Japanese already have more than enough 'first row spots' when it comes to games? A few Rinkya/Celga bidders on Yahoo auctions are not likely to screw that up. I rest my case.
     
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  19. sabre470

    sabre470 Site Supporter 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015

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    :D
    I agree with you both it takes a lot of efforts and work to move to another country as it was a lot of work for me but more especially for my fiancee (who did not speak a word of english) to move from France to England, it's indeed not as far a move as you and Gaijin Punch and not as radical culturally. But moving to the UK when you were born and raised in France is not the best thing to do if you care about your quality of life. I like the UK a lot and I enjoy living there but it's not as nice as France. But you do get a lot of advantages: job are easier to find, companies gives you more responsibility and trust and you make way more money than in France. But this comes at a premium indeed...

    So I can understand the feeling when people are having a go at the few advantages you get by working your ass off, we get that too.

    Well of course I can't say england is great for import games but I'm close to London and there are a few import stores. :D

    Sabre
     
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  20. Bert Hardy

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    Do you mean England is not as nice as France or the whole UK is not as nice as France?..

    Interested to understand the down and up points of UK vs France...
     
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