You can never have enough Rave Racer!

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  1. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    what good is full-screen multi-player if the game feels like riding superfast bumper-cars? Better spend your money in a theme park my friend;)
     
  2. hl718

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    I've never had control issues with Wipeout, but then again I wouldn't expect an airbrake to cause the same reaction as a standard brake. ;)

    And yes, all of the Wipeout games on the PSone have featured true analog control...even the very first one.

    -hl718
     
  3. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    true analog on the Playstation brand is a fiction, i m sorry to say that.

    You cannot compare the accuracy of any potentiometer-based control, (Especially the dual shock) to the pin-point accuracy of a brand new n64 controller:) that laser diode in there did magic!

    PS: there were actually people using the brake on F-zero X? What level did u complete the game on?Novice?:p

    Over-steering and under-steering the vehicle in F-zero X, depending on acceleration settings, was the key to cornering and not reducing speed!

    to educate : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhYDt1VtVY4
    compared to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_j8iFlxpCc

    now, technic in F-zero X>Wipeout 2097 ;)

    To me, Wipeout is directly comperable to Hi-Octane :p
     
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  4. hl718

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    Who said anything about the Dual Shock?

    That wasn't even around when Wipeout debuted.

    -hl718
     
  5. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    please elaborate on your definition of 'analogue controls' then - by common terms, the word analogue implies a wide spectrum of possible movements and the selection of the appropriate degree from that spectrum in a direct physical manner in a point of time. This is unlike the time-based controls of a D-pad, using time to define the degree of potency of a direction.
     
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  6. hl718

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    To that sir, I have but one word:

    neGcon

    Yes, it still uses potentiometers but the larger throw distance allows for more accurate readings than the small sticks on a Dual Shock. Suprisingly, even a Dual Analog controller appears to have more precise control than a Dual Shock despite the fact that the two are very similar inside. That said, the neGcon rules over them both.

    -hl718
     
  7. hl718

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    Bah! If you know what you're doing you can easily slide around corners in both games, though F-Zero is a bit easier to exploit. Wipeout requires more precision whilst driving (though I'm keeping this discussion limited to the PSone versions of the games, the PS2 version was horrid, ugh).

    -hl718
     
  8. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    memorizing a racing game vs real-time reaction to randomly or custom-made tracks... hmm

    And I m sorry to say that we consider the merits of a console game based on its original accessories and not the extended ones. I for one, have never had the chance to play with a negCon, and no other playstation user I know (And there's many) own that controller.

    What's the price it goes for now? I m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and try out 2097 with it :p
     
  9. Taucias

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    I'll let you in to a secret... come closer... NEGCON IS THE EXPERT CONTROL FOR RIDGE RACER - ZING!
     
  10. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    special controllers are for 'special people' Jim.. :p PSX-fan boys pff :p
     
  11. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    I would normally never do this, but:

    BarcØde says (9:33 AM):
    beating f-zero X in master is better than sex.
     
  12. Alchy

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    NegCons are cheap, like a fiver cheap.
     
  13. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I think i need to invite Taucias and hl718 for a weekend here at F-zero X camp, design some 'easy tracks' on the 64DD and train both of you. :p beers on you.
     
  14. hl718

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    The neGcon was *the* standard analog controller for the PSone for quite awhile...when the default option was simply the generic digital controller that came packed with the system. Pretty much all of the original steering wheels (pre-GT3) used the neGcon command set to interface with the PSone hardware.

    As for F-Zero, if you're that good you should try F-Zero AX on the hardset settings on a cab with a full cockpit. :)

    -hl718
     
  15. Barc0de

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    I wish i could hl718. I have never in my life tried AX. I would love to ride the world's biggest F-zero cabinet, the one in London (not sure if it's still there).

    :(

    I consider myself to be relatively more skilled in X than GX really. GX had indeed better and more detailed physics, but lacked the rawness of the first, when it came to destroying opponents, and the level design was original but quite different and limited compared to X.

    For most the better game is probably GX, but for some reason , I can't seem to be able to move on from my one true love, F-zero X!
     
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    Well if you ever get out to the states, make sure to take a trip by NOA.

    There is a minty fresh unit in the Nintendo museum area.

    Works perfectly. :)

    -hl718
     
  17. GigaDrive

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    Next Generation magazine, July 1996 article on PC version of Rave Racer developed specifically for first-gen PowerVR cards.


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    Looks like it's for the PCX1 chip since there's no bilinear texture filtering as with PCX2. Both were PowerVR Series 1, a generation behind the two different PowerVR Series 2 chips used in Dreamcast, NAOMI, NAOMI2 (PowerVR2DC aka CLX2) and Neon250 cards (PMX1 aka PowerVR 250).

    I saw this Rave Racer in motion once on television in 1996 on a show called (IIRC)
    'New Media News', a tech show. They were covering it from one of the trade shows were the prototype Rave Racer was running.
     
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    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I wonder if Namco will ever put together a Ridge Racer arcade collection? It would be cool to be able to play Rave Racer in the home. The problem is that if they did do it they may tart up the graphics which sort of takes away the magic of the arcade. Just look at Daytona on the Dreamcast. Sure, it looks better than the arcade but is just nowhere near as fun.

    Yakumo
     
  19. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    Nice to know there's a lot of RR fans here.

    I have all the games from the series till RRV.

    Too bad Rave Racer never had ports released. I only got the chance to play it on arcades a couple of times.
     
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  20. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    I love Rave Racer to bits. Funnily enough, I completely missed certain titles on the console when I was younger, but was a devoted fan of the arcade version. Only one other arcade driving title has equal status in my opinion and that would be Outrun. Something about Outrun just kept me going back, back and back again!

    Obtaining the actual cab was the fulfillment of a childhood fantasy, then when Rave Racer appeared on eBay for the System 22 I had to have it,and paid slightly more than it's worth to ensure I got it!

    Anyone with any in-depth data of either Ridge Racer II or Rave Racer, please let me know as I'd love to see it.

    In trying to fix the system I contacted Steve Ardell (Namco UK) who was incredibly helpful and seemed as enthusiastic about the title as I was. Borman asked for further images of RR a while ago, but didn't state what. I'll take images of the cab and of the title running and post them into the arcade section soon. Give arcade fans some Rave Racer Pr0n!
     
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