Youtube changes.

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  1. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Yeah I read an article about the money side of that: apparently server costs for youtube are too damn high so google gives even a smaller cut of your videos than what it does of adsense.

    And even then their profits are pretty small, so much that some analists believe it will take 50 years for google to get back all the money they paid for youtube.
     
  2. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I remember an internet where file sharing was free and it was as lawless as the Wild West.

    Welcome to standardization ><
     
  3. liquitt

    liquitt Site Soldier

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  4. ave

    ave JAMMA compatible

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    Yeah dude, this is no country for old men no more!
    We became antiques and should go for rentirement. :033:
     
  5. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    How do I opt out? I dont want them using my crap :p
     
  6. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    There doesn't seem to be anything on Youtube to let you do this. Anyone have a link to the opt out page?
     
  7. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Pah mere boys, I remember when you downloaded files and getting 0.1k downloading a second was considered zippy and you still had to pay for calls and when email meant having a fidonet address (I remember mine was 2:254/233.8085)...

    Back to Youtube, I can see in the future if too many people opt out, that youtube might make it a requirement to opt in, unless of course they like losing money, maybe they could do a youtube video of them shoveling money onto a fire or even have a counter which shows how much Youtube is costing google per second. :lol:
     
  8. Mark30001

    Mark30001 Guest

    It's not like I'm losing any money, and I doubt I would ever care to make some from clips uploaded onto my channel. I don't see why I must absolutely stress myself to opt out.

    Maybe I'm missing something here.
     
  9. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    I noticed that file size went up to 1024 MB (might have been for a while, didn't notice untill today).
     
  10. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Or in round numbers a nice 1 Gigabyte (or is it 1 Gigibyte or even 1.024 Gigabytes... arrrrrgh!).
     
  11. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    hmmm what about fuck youtube ? ! and let us get to the alternatives ! ?
     
  12. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    The only good alternative to youtube was Stage6 IMO, but it went down since just like any other video service it needs a fuckload of cash to stay online, and Divx is no Google...

    Theres no real alternatives, mostly becos many studies show that online video isnt the holy grail most suits thought it was, and nobody wants to go into business with a failed idea.
     
  13. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    Does this mean the videos can be 1 gigabyte? Thats mighty long for a youtube video.:eek:h:
     
  14. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    10 minute max still, and still converts it to their crappy formatted videos
     
  15. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    They're not making money, but they have one of the stickiest sites out there... something doesn't make sense here. You know what they should do, is produce some of thier own "shows,' or make some deals with the studios to distribute thier shows specifically on Youtube, that will make them some cash.
     
  16. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Mark I've studied the whole deal over and over, and frankly they have no business model at all, at least not a sustainable one.

    Google bought them becos it was an oportunity: they were a popular site that had ran out of money, so google knew it could get it for a low price. I know billion doesnt sounds cheap, but for a site as popular as youtube it was.

    The problem is that giving a service for free makes little sense. Obviously there were ads and sponsored shows, but the numbers are in and the money barely keeps the company off the red.

    Video ads are like game ads, they sound great in theory, but in practice they barely work. I remember an experiment they did less than a year ago where they connected a guy to one of those gizmos that track your eye's movement. They made him play NFS:C, to find out how many times a player looks at the in-game ads.

    Turns out they barely do, and I agree since as a player I can say I may look one as a novelty (like the phony ones in every GTA) but having half of the virtual space filled with real ads is pretty cumbersome. Plus unlike a Tv show I'm directly paying for the game, so why the ads? Theres no ads in movies, product placement maybe, but not ads per se.

    Anyway, the same results can be applied to video ads. Most users just turn off the speakers and look at something else while the ad plays, or if it is one of those text-over-video ones the average joe will consider it irrelevant, if he ever reads it.

    I know is hard to believe that theres high rank execs out there pouring money into stuff with no future, but hey it happened just some years ago before the .com bubble burst. Many companies back then had no business plan at all, and their only objetive was to get even more funding or that some bigger company bought them.

    Some did get a buyer, and at prices that dwarf the sum google payed for youtube.

    At the end the bubble bursted, since while you can keep people working for just company stock, servers need energy to run, and to get energy you need actual money, not empty promises.


    Yeah, at that blocky resolution who cares how much you can store...

    Man I miss Stage6.
     
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  17. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Youtube has changed their terms of use, you must OPT OUT on each clip you have unless you want to grant syndication rights for the media.

    So unless you want them to use your clips to make money,
    opt out.

    Here's the details:

    They added a way to make money from views to DIRECTOR accounts.
    All of my media, if I go to edit the info, and then the SHARING OPTIONS
    have an opt-out for syndication. Specifically I now see:

    Monetization Tools
    AdSense Video Units Players
    AdSense Account Settings (offsite)

    Video Units

    Enhance your site with high quality, relevant video content from select YouTube partners, and earn extra revenue along the way.
    [​IMG] Relevant, Premium Content

    Deliver high quality video content to your site. Choose categories, individual YouTube partners, or have Google target your site's content.
    Targeted, Non-Intrusive Ads

    Earn revenue from relevant, user-friendly ads targeted to your site and to the videos being played.
    Enhanced User Experience

    Attract and retain users with highly relevant, frequently refreshed video from popular content providers.
    Customizable Players

    Customize the color theme and layout of the player to best fit your site.
    Ready? Get Started!

    Visit the Video units section at YouTube.com by clicking the button below and start creating your player today.
    Got more questions? Visit the AdSense
     
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