360 owners are getting Pac man and Mega Man After all....Capcom still F's up

Wow... And here is me thinking I was unimpressed with Capcom when they released the first iteration of SF4 with DLC for Outfits already on the disc, this takes it 5 steps further into the deep end.... Seriously, what happened to the days of in-game unlockables through completing hard tasks or pulling off something incredible? What complete shit. Can't believe they managed to throw me off from buying this game, as I was really looking forward to it, but this constant news of a stinted 360 version as well as massive amounts of on disc content that needs to be unlocked, forget about it. Capcom .... a company I just could never see disliking in the past.....

 

Back in the day these were called unlockables by finishing the game with a certain character / time frame, or a input code or something similar. Hell even Capcom used to do it as with a lot of other companies.

Now I agree with most of the others that DLC is nothing more than a blatant cash grab. If its on the disc it should be unlocked for free (which Capcom may intend on doing but highly doubt it) or as a code or similar as stated above. If it was a actual digital download instead of a crappy unlock thing then the charge IMO is worthy.

Isn't Ridge Racer Vita doing something similar, where there was only a few tracks and cars on disc but to get new tracks and cars you had to download them at cost?

This DLC thing is going crazy.


EDIT - Its also a good reminder why most people dont bother with playing the games much now as theres not much incentive to do so. Fighters Megamix was a great example of how playing the game in different ways / times of days and hours played unlocked a wealth of features. Nowdays spend a buck or two and get it unlocked for you - No challenge = no point really.

 

Announce Resident Evil 7 :triumphant:

 

I just want Mega Man 11 and, 12 released the same day on disc with 9 and 10

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-11-why-devs-owe-you-nothing

 

Some games you can using Modio and game save mods. Test Drive Unlimited 2 had all the pre-order cars on disc, and even a hidden Ferrari Italia that was exclusive to the PS3 version, but I unlocked it on my disc since it was on a game I fully paid for in the first place.

Hex editing for the win on 360 game saves!

 

Oh yes. I know Modio and use it but not to cheat. I use modio AFTER completing a game to "rip it open" and se what otherwise isn't possible. Just downloaded a hacked save for Fallout New Vegas that allows moon jumps. Now I can access all of those areas that are out of reach. I love seeing what's behind areas you can't access. Dead Island has some great places.

I never use Modio for achievement cheating or online hacks. That's just wrong and against everything gaming is about IMO. Fingers crossed they'll have a hack for Mass Effect 3 since my Asian copy arrives today or tomorrow and there's no way in hell I'm paying for that character which is essential to the story.

Yakumo

 

I don't think that will work. The DLC is not on the disc this time, so I don't think it's possible to hack *spoilers* into the game with modio. You'd need to have a modded console in order to download the Day 1 DLC and use it, and with the way things are going with games nowadays, I'd recommend getting one if you don't already.

 

Devs rely on us to pay for their everything so they owe us whatever the hell we ask of them

 

your plaining on paying $20 for this REALLY?
im plaining on getting the PS3 version at some point and buying it used from amazon gamefail wont be gettig my money and heather will sony/capcom

 

@GOH - No they don't. How can you come to that conclusion? All they "owe" us is the item we paid for or a complete game that we paid for. Something that Capcom are not doing with character DLC that's already on the disc and EA with a character download that's vital to the game. Apart from that, Devs owe us shit. They make a game and we buy it. That's how it is and always has been. What they can't get away with is releasing games then charging for something that should already be in it. Later extra maps and so on are fine to charge for since they are adding to the games life span but characters or costumes?!?!?

Looks like I'll be playing mass effect 3 without the needed character. EA can go and fuck themseles because I'm not paying. I'm not signing up to their bullshit online "service" either.

Yakumo

 

What I mean is, They should at least give us the finished product if we're not happy and we don't buy what they give us and what we expect from them then they should listen to us.

So they owe it to us to at least give us what we ask for a complete product day one nothing locked off on disc. If they want to add later that's fine.

 

You know, their explanation makes sense to me honestly. Would you rather pay near full price for another copy of the game or a fraction to update the game into "Super Street Fighter X Tekken"
?

It's understandable to be upset about it being on Disc. But their explanation actually somewhat makes sense to me.

 

There is nothing underhanded about having the content on disc and forcing you to pay to access it. It takes months to make a game, all that time they are living off of prospective money. When the game comes out, they may have a sudden, short burst in sales that will die out quickly when another big budget game comes out shortly after. They need a cheap way to get more sales that doesn't involve shipping out a new product. It they chose to make it a downloadable update, that would cost more money; server costs, royalties to the console, it makes perfect sense to add it to the disc first and then charge to access it later.

Remember when extras were in games in the form of secret codes? In order to get those, you had to buy a magazine or guide that told you how to do it. Did you feel cheated that you had to pay to discover it, or were you happy to find new content in a game already owned?

GOH, you would be a terrible business man. This is economically the most sound solution to maximize revenue. Your sense of entitlement is ridiculous.

 

No you didn't. YOu could get the codes from anywhere. You didn't even need to buy the magazine. Just look at the cheat page in the shop. Also, many games had extras that were unlocked after doing well in the game including Capcom's Saturn and Dreamcast fighters. What's different now than back then? Also why does a fighting game need a mega big budget? Games such as Mass Effect 3 I can understand with the many areas, characters, modes and art needed. Any fighter doesn't even come a 1/4 near the amount of work needed for the likes of Mass Effect 3. Still shit the way they want you to pay for a part of the game that is part of the main plot. That's like showing a movie and cutting out the end until you pay more money.

Yakumo

 

Sorry, but I have to disagree some of with that statement.

I read one of the Mass Effect 3 developers defending day one DLC by basically saying that there was so much lead time between finishing the game and it actually hitting store shelves that they had plenty of time to design DLC that couldn't be included in the retail disk. I can understand that. I can also understand Capcom's sentiment (if that's what it is) that they'll just design and finish the characters now right along with the development of the regular game, striking while the iron is hot and possibly lowering their own development costs of assembling a team to make new shit for a game long after the original design team finished their work.

But actually putting it on a disk? Then acting like they're going out of their way and doing this great service to buyers by doing that? Bullshit. It's not saving the end user any money, because I don't see these characters being sold at some extreme discount. Royalties are going to have to be paid to MS/Sony, regardless if it's royalties for physical disks or royalties on shit being sold on their network. If they sell $100k worth of disks or $100k worth of downloads Caesar will have his portion rendered onto him; but I'll be the first to admit I don't know what their cut is from digital purchases (and I'd like to know). Server costs? By whom? As far as I'm aware aren't digital purchases hosted by MS/Sony anyway? If they somehow get a profit depending on bandwidth used per digital purchase it's the first I've heard of it.

Capcom also acts like having a small download file to unlock the content is a plus. I'm not even going to point out the stupidity in that.

And for all this hoopla Capcom's said about how this is such a great thing for the end user, because they'll just have to buy one disk that has all the content on it and have endless entertainment for years to come due to trickle down unlocked shit that's handily included on the disk, what do they have to say to users that aren't online?

So far we've got Capcom PR spin pablum, more anger than sympathetic internet reaction, and modders already using hacked DLC content that legitimate users can't even get. Basically it boils down to this; has/will Capcom gain more than they lost/will lose over this? Almost single negative reaction could have been avoided by just not including the DLC on the disk.

Where have you gotten the idea that Capcom will only charge "a fraction" to unlock a whopping twelve additional characters?

Even if they are sold as 2 characters for $5 USD (which is being conservative IMO) that's still $30 + $60 initial purchase. In the current market every game that's reissued with on disk bonus content is either priced equal to the original release (Mortal Kombat Komplete) or less than (Super Street Fighter IV Turbo, Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3).

Your options are either pay more by buying the bare release now and buying DLC as it comes out, or buying nothing and getting it cheaper by waiting till a rerelease with the DLC bundled on disk. I've never seen a "GOTY" or whatever disk rerelease that had the DLC included that actually cost more than the original disk (even at it's new discounted price) + buying the DLC online. And, I've never seen DLC go down in price after editions like that are released, although I may be wrong. Like right now; isn't discounted MK + all DLC still more expensive than the Komplete disk, or discounted SSFIV + AE DLC more expensive than just buying the AE disk?

 

As far as I'm concerned, if I buy a game, I then have the right to access and make use of the entire contents of the disc. Don't want me "stealing" launch-day on-disc DLC? Don't fucking put it on the disc then, actually make it DLC.

Fuck Capcom.

 

Well Capcom really fucked themselves First week sales Worldwide for SFXT?

roughly 150,000 copies not in the US no WORLD WIDE.

Game is a flop

 

Where did you get your data from? Because according to Vgchartz, it's more like 350,000.

 

VG chartz makes shit up. I searched other outlets.