What is the file format of a DD (if custom, can you provide specs) and does the sdk provide library to do the work ?
I don't know if you understand me correctly so I rephrase : Is there any fat/iso-9660 thing on a disk or it's just a plain memory zone and you do what ever you want ?
I wasnt sure you were actually pointing out to that . But yes, there is some kind of FAT, in that reading from a non-written sector causes an error. But for what kind of FAT it is, and more details you'll need to wait a bit more
No we cannot, , the first 64dd unit's reached subscribers on the 14th of december 1999, and this was by error, as Randnet wanted them delivered on the 15th. I'll say it again, there is no such thing as a retail 64dd, and the IGn stories relate to stores that purchased randnet starter kits, and then sold the subscription for the games in their stores. All this was done through Randnet DD. The Blue box 64dd commonly reffered to as the retail 64dd is a shop display unit, and was bundled with the demo version of Doshin the giant, which you could not save to. The Blue unit was shipped to stores that were selling the Randnet plan in their stores. It is not a reatil 64DD from Nintendo, it's just like the reatil demo gamecube unit's, or the demo Virtual Boy unit's. The only 64DD's sold at reatil were starter kit's with randnet DD boxes, and Kyojin No sohin and mario Artistaint studio. Some also contained the see through bblack N64. So the offical release date for the 64DD is December 15th 1999, although some subs got theirs a day early. IGN and other site's are misinformed when it comes to the unit's sold in retail, and that blue box 64DD is a demo unit, though is the same as all other 64dd's released to the public. If these unit's had been sold at retail, the import prices for 64dd would never have escalated to the prices they did, and these blue box unit's would have appeared far sooner than they did.
My god! Yet more interesting DD facts! :thumbsup: Hands up everyone who thinks Nintendomad should be crowned 'AG's resident DD Guru'. :thumbsup:
grow up will you :lol: Nintendomad, thanks for clearing that bit up! Keep 'em comming and get to me on msn about the other stuff we were talking about!
I've pmed you Barcode, and I'll catch up with you on msn tomorrow bro. I don't want to be the resident guru, as I think we all know some info and peicing it together is the fun part of the whole thing, but thanks for the nice comment's guys, I really appreciate it. I was just a 64dd absolutely obsessive fan, and have followed all of it from pre release to release but there is always someone who comes along with another piece of info. Barcode was right in what some of what he said too, and the dates confusion is easy. It was registration for the 64DD Randnet programme online or by phone that finished on the 1st of december, though there was an extension of that deadline for the stores willing to carry the starter kit and this continued until the 15000 unit's were sold. Also game's could only be purchased with a randnet account, either online or through the randnet disk, or through forrms at stores. But Randnet DD is the publisher for all Nintendo 64DD title's, as it was a 50/50 joint venture with Nintendo, but the Randnet DD company set up did all the publishing and selling. NCL never actually published a title under the name NCL, so that is why the games are not on their website. Also, in the original Spaceworld announcement and brochure, it had the 1st of december as the release date for the machine, and it was not until September that Nintendo and Recruit decided for definite that the system would only be sold through two sub plans. 2500 yen per month for twelve months got you the starter kit(system. ram pack, modem, modular cable), with randnet disk, mario artist comms disk, and six titles, and 3300 yen for twelve months got you the nintendo 64 randnet clear black model included too. At the end of your sub, the whole system and kit was yours to keep. And even though stores carried the Randnet DD starter kits in limited supply, you still had to subscribe to randnet DD before you could buy the item in store. This was the only way the 64dd was sold at retail, and as I said earlier, the Blue box was just for those stores to have a 64DD unit to display, and these were sent out during the registration period, and as i said came with a white labeled Doshin demo disk.
Release date for a mail order subscribtion machine is hard to do as now we have 3 dates we could use, the 11th when the games were officially release according to Nintendo, the 14th when some machines were recieved by some subscribers and the 15th which is when Randnet meant to have had the machine. Each date will cause an arguement somewhere... Still thanks for a very detailed and informitive post, now do you have the release date of the Nintendo Odyssey?
I believe you might be wrong about that. If the 64DD blue box was just for retailer, the mention "Not For Resale" would appear on the box. Like "Not for resale" was printed on N64 games for distributors. About the Doshin 1 sample, I don't know how it comes with the 64DD blue box. But it wasn't included in the blue box, as on that box, there is no mention of Doshin 1 sample being included. So maybe this game was sent to a retailer for demonstration.
The post above should be deleted as its useless in the sence that in 3 months the "retail" one here link will be gone and no one will know what you meant hence the rule is all ebay items should remain in the ebay thread and anything you want to show you should copy/upload to a image website.
I know the Doshin Sample disk never came in the box, I have researched the 64dd for years, and I was told by a randnet employee and and a store manager's in tokyo, and kyoto, that there were no such things as retail 64dd's, and that the Blue box version of the console was given to store's by Nintendo for display purposes, along with sending them a sample copy of Doshin to play on the sample machines, and not all Nintendo demo consoles had not for sale on them, did the mosiac box Virtual boy's??? These console's were not for sale while Randnet was on, you could only buy randnet bundles at the store and then sign up to randnet. These blue box 64dd's were sample console sent out to stores for demonstartion and that is why there is only so many of them. The stores that sold 64dd, sold Randnet starter kit's, and had randnet forms on the desk. In fact I'm not going to justify myself on this issue, because I know I am right. The blue box 64dd's only started to appear when store's started to sell their old inventory , thats why you never saw them until so late. Also the doshin sample disk was sent to stores so they had something to play on the demo 64dd's, and the doshin demo disk was also present in the 64dd roadshow's, which also had blue box 64dd's as the randnet box had not been finalized on that brief randnet tour of cities before the 64dd's release.
Thanks for your answer.On ebay, I can see multiple sellers who sell the doshin 1 sample in a plastic 64dd case, was it shipped to the retailer in a case?
