An SNES CD Drive Controller is Up On eBay.

Thats just the way things work.

If I would have posted this back in 2002 it would be taken as fact. Problem is I waited till now and people have their own idea of how things played out. When you come up with a new way things may have developed it doesn't go over well.

I appreciate the support but I'm not too worried about the whole thing. We don't have to have all the facts laid out today. We have time to figure all this out and as more information slowly leaks out from other sources then the truth will be known. All I ask is that it doesn't get dismissed as just random hearsay and that it at least be taken as a serious consideration. Everything else will sort itself out.

 

No, people own things they don't understand all the time. It was sealed in a bag, it probably came out of the bottom of a drawer or filing cabinet when they were chucking out things they had no use for. They had probably been there laying for eight or nine years. It was an old prototype controller, which looked a bit like the snes controller.

There is documentation from sony that this controller was used on the early PS1 dev kits that were around between 1993 & 1994 ( it was replaced by the DTL-H2000 in 94 ). I find it unlikely that they named the DTL-H500 target box after the controller that they had been using on the SNES CD project.

There is just so much circumstantial evidence that it's not and no evidence that it is.

If a 1992 Play Station turned up and we had scans of the motherboard and a dump of the BIOS ROM and dumps of any CD's from the time ( if they've not rotted ) then that would be evidence. Using a dump of the DTL-H500 bios ( if one existed ) you might be able to prove whether the controller could possibly be the same.

I just don't see how it's impossible that your mate could be wrong. I know you don't doubt him at all, but he might not have lied. He might just have had an off day or maybe his life is more important than exactly what system that old piece of junk plugged into? Maybe he had a controller from both and sent you the wrong one.

 

89? no, surely not 89. The project ended quite later.

 

Depends on the person we are talking about.

Why do you find it unlikely that a controller that looks more like a SNES controller than a PS1 controller didn't start out as a SNES CD dev kit controller?

I find it more unlikely that Sony started from scratch and then ended up with a controller that looks so much like the SNES controller. I don't think the dev controller design gets top priority and it wasn't changed right away. Explain to me why they issued a controller with a different button configuration than the retail units AT ALL. The only good reason I can think of was that it was already there and saved them a step and a bit of $ for R&D.

The only evidence presented suggests it may have been used for the PS1 dev kits. Says nothing about the SNES CD dev kit controller. No evidence at all suggests a different model was used for the SNES CD dev kit. I will not provide more evidence just to win an argument. If this is not the SNES CD dev kit controller then find the one that is.

Perhaps, anything is possible but it ALL depends on your source. I just haven't seen anything else having to do with the SNES CD dev kit controller. So I have a credible source telling me this and a bunch of evidence that it may have been used as a PS1 dev kit controller as well. Why can't those two facts coexist?

 

my original comments are based on the fact that I was a Sony (games is all I will say) employee, I salvaged the dev kit that is seen in so many pics, and I've talked at length with those associated with the project since day 1 including Kuturagi and Tokunaka. I also worked side by side with the very first "SCEA" employee (and subsequently employees) before there was an SCE globally and was exposed to all the initial prototypes up to the final controller design and lay out.

I could write stories all day long - but that controller is not related in anyway shape or form to the SNES, regardless of the origins. Why does it look like a SNES controller? Why does every company have to reinvent the wheel? Look at any PS/XBox/GameCube controller, they share same similarities (4 button on right, symbols + color coding).

 

See, heres the one thing Jet-X, you dont have the controller. You dont know the person that it came from. Buyatari does. He doesnt have to make up a story. He has the control itself.

 

If thats true then you know the person I got this from. I sent you a PM.

 

What part of "I worked at Sony" wasn't clear - do you know how many of those controllers were made and are floating around? It isn't one person. And for your information, I have held and seen that controller pre-Playstation release as well as post along with countless other derivative variations. So having posession of the controller is a moot point.

Buyatari, got it, sent you a reply.

 

FYI to everyone else reading, I know where Buyatari got his info, and in no way is this some 'made up' info to inflate an auction price - it isn't.

I'm following up with the person responsible for clarification as I know him very well.

 

Sorry, Ill admit I was wrong on this one. I read "I could write stories all day long" that you were writing stories, and that you were calling out that Buyataris stories could be made up. Sorry about that

 

No harm...

 

I hate to bump an old thread, but under the circumstances, it seems more reasonable than to start a new one.

Jet-X, do I understand you as saying that we can conclude that the controller is in fact for the SNES-CD development unit, rather than for the PS development unit?

My reason for asking is because I have one of these controllers. I got it from a programmer who claims it is in fact for the SNES-CD. As I understand his email, after the SNES CD was scrapped, the controllers were then used for the PS development unit, but that they are in fact for the SNES-CD development unit.

 

Jet-X has a total of 19 posts and while I didn't add them up I bet half of them were in this very thread. Better of sending him a PM or an email.

 

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