Anita Sarkeesian is not a gamer

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  1. Prometheus

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    I'll start this thread right off the bat by saying that this is NOT about sexism in video games. This is NOT about online harassment. This is NOT about feminism, past or present. This thread is about Anita Sarkeesian herself. If you want to discuss sexism or feminism, and why it's an issue or why it's bullshit, post in one of the many preexisting threads about it. Please try to keep the discussion on topic, this is a serious issue and I'd rather this thread not be locked because of an immature pissing contest that has little to do with the actual topic.

    Anita Sarkeesian has been exposed as a fraud, a liar, con artist, and simply put, not a gamer. It's a lot to cover but this video sums it up well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2h4vITidvo

    She denies it as simply a conspiracy theory (as well as her accomplice), and her blind followers eat it up, but there is enough evidence to suggest something shady is going on. People such as myself have known since the kickstarter page that something simply wasn't right, and recent revelations prove that we were not far off.

    You ever wonder why people such as myself say her videos are poorly researched? It's because she is not a gamer. What's that? She said before she's a hardcore gamer? She said she's been playing since she was a kid? I'm just a filthy male trying to oppress and silence women? I'll let her tell you with her own words.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcPIu3sDkEw


    "...it's a soundtrack of one song, except I'm doing video games. So it's not exactly a fandub, I'm not a fan of video games, I actually have learned a lot about video games from the process of making this."

    I mean... really? There is no denying it. It's clear as day. Right there. It was said long before the whole "feminist frequency" fad emerged. That's her. Like she told you, she is not a fan of video games, therefore, she is not a gamer. She has little to no history with the medium. What she says should have no relevance whatsoever to video games, female interpretation in video games, or the industry itself. She doesn't know what in the hell she's talking about, because she was never really a part of it to being with.

    Look, I know I can come across as arrogant or even downright mean at times. I'm not perfect, but I respect others opinions (even if I tease or argue against it), and I'm not nearly foolish enough to think that everyone should like what I like, or believe what I believe. But this... this is just absurd.

    I was reading through her twitter, it was the same man hating "oh woe is me" garbage that I'd expect from her. That's not what bothers me though. What upset me was seeing her fans, people who are simply ignorant of her true intentions, people who are too blinded by "doing the right thing" to look past her facade and see it for what it truly is. Parents who show her poorly researched videos to their daughters thinking they'll grow up as gamers that want strong female protagonists (daughters that will then grow up admiring a fraud), women who are genuinely harassed by men and feel her cause is one to follow, and people who feel the industry is truly oppressing women. You people are the ones I feel sorry for. You're being conned out of your money, your time, and your passion.

    She's exploiting a controversial topic. She's using you. Stop supporting a blatant con artist. Please, open your eyes. I'm being sincere here.
     
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    About a year too late to the party
     
  3. synrgy87

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    sexist pig!

    lol only joking :D i prefer not to give her or anyone like her the attention they crave, if dumb or naive sheeple want to flock to them and even throw money at them, so be it.

    with regards to feminism / sexism, i prefer just to call them out on their bullshit or agree with / discuss valid points, it's fun
     
  4. Prometheus

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    Better late than never.

    I used to feel the same way, and I guess I still do in a sense. If others want to piss away their money to something clearly a scam, then let them, right?

    But then I looked at it from their perspective. From the perspective of someone that shares the same base views that Anita claims to have. They genuinely think what they're doing actually accomplishes something, like somehow giving her money and attention will fix everything that they view wrong with gaming. I really do feel bad for them.

    It's kinda like the overly religious people I saw handing out fliers at my local Wal-Mart for the end of the world 2012 bullshit. I initially laughed in my head, thought they were a bunch of dumbasses for getting caught up in what any reasonable person knew was not going to happen. But then I realized those people were possibly part of a cult run by a leader that probably knew it was all fake, were easily manipulated by said leader because life's struggles took it's toll on their mental state, likely sold off or gave away most of their possessions thinking it was truly the end, got their families caught up in the mess as well, and just basically ruined their lives because they were part of a false cause they truly believed in. It's really kinda sad when you think about it.

    And no, I'm not stating any of the above is as bad as supporting some con artist on the internet.
     
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  5. Tatsujin

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    over and out.
     
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    You must because you took the time to open this thread and post about it.

    When it comes to Anita, I know what you mean. Who cares, ignore her, quit giving her attention, etc. I get that. But her followers are great in number and too delusional to look at her in any way that isn't glowingly positive. They need to see her true colors, see her for what she really is. Evidence has surfaced, and they need to be made aware of this.
     
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    I doubt her 'followers' care even for the slightest bit, especially if they are as blind as you say anyway. Who cares that she's not a gamer? Does that somehow magically invalidates her opinions on the gaming industry? No, it doesn't, just like I'm allowed to criticize the music industry's terrible software state despite not being a composer. It sounds to me people are just searching for excuses instead of properly attacking any false (I'll leave this up to the reader) argumentation she might have.
     
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    "sets up deck chair to watch the fireworks"
     
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    If I were to guess by her videos... I would have a good idea she isn't a gamer.
     
  11. Prometheus

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    Yes, it fucking does. You're allowed to criticize the music industry, but tell me, when was the last time you gave a presentation to thousands on just how much you hate modern music or how you've been victimized because of your taste in music? When was the last time you were on TV, being interviewed for a television documentary on how modern music is declining and how it has affected you? When was the last time you started a kickstarter to fund videos where you make biased and uneducated claims towards a genre you have nothing more than a casual interest in?

    Searching for excuses? Don't give me that bullshit.
     
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    I dunno, but I would sure grab onto it if I had the chance and appropriately strong opinions or experiences. The seeming notion that you have to be in with the club in order to criticize it is nothing short of hilarious.

    It is, in fact, a classic excuse and fallacy in debating theory: attacking the person when you've run out of arguments. Not saying you or anyone else has no valid arguments to make against their opinions, but it is most definitely an excuse.
     
  13. Prometheus

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    So you see nothing wrong with her giving a seminar at an established video game development company, like DICE for example, to tell professionals in their field why the medium they work in is sexist and what they need to do to fix it, while she herself has previously admitted she is not a fan of the very medium she's giving advice on?

    EDIT: I think I should've used a different title. Her not being a gamer is not the main issue, just one. The main issue is her lying, scamming, and taking advantage of a controversial issue for fame and monetary gain. The fact that she admitted to not being a fan of video games only further exposes her deceitful ways, since being a female gamer is all part of her image.
     
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  14. GodofHardcore

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    In other news

    The Sky is blue
    Fish are in the sea
    we need air to breathe
    and I'm perpetually single because all the women I meet are Psychopaths.
     
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    I couldn't give a shit. In fact I didn't even know who this woman was so she can't be THAT popular.
     
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    She's an attention whore talking about her is just giving her what she wants.
     
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    No, I don't. Apparently the fact that she even had a seminar there means someone saw value in her opinions. Especially outsider views can be very enlightening.
     
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    this.
     
  19. GodofHardcore

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    She's Armenian. and her behavior the attention whoring the Maipulativeness, stubborness it's all very Armenian. yes she's a poser bitch but alot of it is genetic. I'm part Armenian I've been around them most of my life so I know Armenian personality traits. She's Textbook.
     
  20. Prometheus

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    No, they saw that she was good press. That was her "value". Now they're the "progressive" developers. It was the same basic principle for why Nintendo didn't take down her kickstarter despite her intentionally defaming licensed Nintendo characters for profit. They'd get blasted by the media for silencing this poor, oppressed female gamer and her noble cause, and Nintendo can't have that now can they?

    Outsider views can be enlightening when the person in question is honest, sincere, coherent, well educated, open to criticism, and knows what they're talking about. Does any of that describe her?
     
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