Beast Blasters (Just bought my first arcade) Help Required!!

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  1. Dot50Cal

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    I just bought an arcade from a local flea market. The guy mentioned that the screen sometimes doesnt turn on sometimes and you need to put the plug in and out for it to work.I noticed that the ground pin was removed so I thought it might be that. But I just got back from replacing it and the monitor still wont go on, Everything else seems to be working too so can anyone help me here? Heres some pictures:

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    Here it is in my cousins Nissan..We drove 15 miles with it in the back here. It was pretty spur of the moment too, so we didnt have any cables to secure it. Luckily one of the other vendors (a very nice feller) offered us some rope to secure it. However it wasnt really enough so we ended up going over to the "dollar store" and picking up POS bungie cords :lol: Needless to say it was a hair rasing ride home.

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    Home! With our crappy bungie job!

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    GUNS!!!!!!!1111111

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    Its resting place!

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    GUNS!11

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    Inside

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    My rather demeaning father says the tube is probably dead and its not worth fixing however I gotta disagree...Can anyone here offer suggestions/help? Theres a few wires that arent connected and im not sure where they go..

    Another question, What would you guys have paid for this?
     
  2. Borman

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    Id look up the schematics on the monitor and stuff, it could be that the power isnt connected (or the power supply is dead), or the monitor might just be dead. You can also check fuses...

    Its tough to say what id pay for it. If the guns work, but the monitor doesnt, maybe 100-125...but i would avoid buying broken cabs as it is
     
  3. Dot50Cal

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    Got it for $65 :p Guns work, vibrate too.
     
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    Alright then, good deal heh :)
     
  5. Blur2040

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    It's Neo Geo 64. Head over to Neo Geo.com and they'll be more than happy to help you out.
     
  6. Dot50Cal, where in Pennsylvania are you from? I know some decent arcade shops around, depending on where you are from.
     
  7. Beast Busters 2 ran on the Neo 64 hardware, the original (which he has) runs on hardware that has the same specs as the Neo Geo MVS system but actually predates the MVS itself. Its a dedicated board, not an interchangable cartridge system.
     
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    Whoops! Man, I didn't even think about what I was saying. Thanks for the correction!
     
  9. Dot50Cal, if you get a chance, look around on the monitor and see if you can find a manufacturer and model number. I've got a pile of monitor manuals around here along with a bunch more scanned into my computer, I might have one that would work for your partiucular monitor.
     
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    Im about 3 hours away from you, In Scranton. Ill have a look at the monitor when it gets light out, Any idea where the model number might be?
     
  11. Scranton isn't that far from here, I think I made it in about an hour and a half last time I was up that way. Unfortunately I don't know any vending/amusement companies up that way. As for the model info, I'd check around on the monitor's PCB first, there should at least be a manufacturer stamp somewhere on there and probably even a model number. Sometimes you will come across a sticker on the tube that has the info, although more often than not these have fallen off.

    If you can at least get me a manufacturer and diagonal measurements, I can start scrounging through some manuals for you to see if I have anything that could help you out.

    [edit] Be sure to be careful when poking around the back of the monitor, even if it is unplugged, the thing can still be storing a lot of energy. Touch the wrong thing and there is the potential to be sent flying across the room.
     
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  12. Also, a couple more questions for you that might help pinpoint the problem.

    1) When you turn the cabinet on, do you hear any of the typical noises a tv/monitor makes when you turn them on such as that "Pwongggg" noise or any kind of high pitched squealing noise?

    2) When you turn it on, is there any game noise? Try hitting the coin actuator switches (some games don't make noise at the title screen) and pressing the start buttons. The fact that the guns vibrate doesn't really indicate anything, the vibration motors are turned on whenever the trigger is pressed regardless of the pcb working or not.
     
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    Yeah, Im MR Safety as it is and my friend was poking around it a few inches away..I was freaking out but he wasnt taking it seriously :-(

    No, I dont hear anything coming from the monitor at all.

    Yeah, theres a noise at first some kinda jingle like maybe the SNK logo is supposed ot be displayed? After that the top lights turn on and I can hear the demo of the game running. I can even insert a coin, a noise is played and join the game. Shooting works, as does the grenade launching. I can hear the zombies screams as I kill them. Guns vibrate and all that, its just not dispplayed.

    Almost light out here.
     
  14. Well it's good to know the pcb is working, that eliminates one possible source of the problem. The fact that you aren't even getting a squeal out of the monitor sounds like your problem does indeed lie in either the monitor itself, or the monitor not getting power.
     
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    Is there any way to..hook it up to some kinda other tv, just so I can see it? Im not sure how the light guns would like that but if I could actually see it playing that would be great.
     
  16. Unfortunately, arcade machines use a RGB composite sync signal that most American TV's can't handle. If you happen to have an SCART compatable television laying around, you could do this. Another option is if you have an old Commodore 1084 or an old Multisync RGB monitor laying around, you can patch your machine in to one of these.
     
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    Id definatly check where the loose wires go to then. It could be that the wires just broke the solder joints and popped out. if not, monitor is probably dead
     
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    wg482163 Picture Tube Model Number

    Lemme know! Crap, I meant to say Beast Busters hahah god what a corny name :nod:
     
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  19. Unfortunately I am unable to identify which monitor model it is just by the picture tube model number, only thing I can tell you from that is that it is in all liklihood a Wells Gardner monitor (the wg at the begining is a dead giveaway). You might want to look around some more to see if you can find any other model numbers. Here is a chart provided by Wells Gardner that breaks down what everything in the monitor model number means so it should help you figure out if you've managed to snag the right model number. http://www.wellsgardner.com/wellsgardner31/supportdata/RELEASE%20NO%20BREAKDOWN.pdf

    I think I must have said "model number" about 20 times in that post, sorry if it gets a little confusing in there.

    [edit] Try looking around on the monitor's circuit boards, often the model number is silk screened on there.
     
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    Just don't electrocute yourself.
     
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