Best Playstation revision

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  1. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Inspired by other thread here "best snes revision" which has some serious information I'm opening this thread to ask what's the best playstation revision.

    If you know a issue on some revision or know how good some model is, please, post it.
    I'll update this first thread if we got some good information about it.
     
  2. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    I've heard the SCPH-100x series is supposed to have high quality audio output, atleast for Audio CDs. Older models like the SCPH-100x and 300x have the CD assembly closer to the power supply where most of the heat is generated which isn't really good for it. Later models, atleast the 750x series have the CD assembly further away from the power supply. The PSOne or SCPH-10x series has an external PSU and is very compact. It and the 900x series lack the parallel I/O port though so you can't use those devices.

    I don't really think any model that particularly superior to another. Older ones you get will be more likely to need a new CD assembly. As I said the really old ones are near the power supply section and apparently the CD assembly could warp and get the laser lens out of alignment with the disc surface.
     
  3. alphagamer

    alphagamer What is this? *BRRZZ*.. Ouch!

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    I always liked the design and form factor of the PSone, also I never had any issues with it, sold it on this forum.
     
  4. CRTGAMER

    CRTGAMER Robust Member

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    The 7501 series. You get the parallel port for utility carts and the Sound Scope music player.
     
  5. dj898

    dj898 Site Supporter 2015

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    that's it! now I know why I had couple of old PS1 at the shed. ^ ^
     
  6. MaxWar

    MaxWar <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    I have 3 different Playstation. One old with the RCA jacks, one old without them and a Mini PSone. For now i use the mini PSone as it loads and seeks faster then the two older ones.

    But that might just be because the laser is not as tired. The mini possibly also has cleared S-Video. But i would need to properly compare in controlled condition to be sure. I also do not have the exact revisions number of my machines right now.

    If you are willing to update the first post To be a ressource thread, I may volunteer to do some testing with my consoles. After all, i like this type of thread.
     
  7. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Sure, I'll gladly do it.

    For now I only have the psone and a fat here which doesn't have the rca jacks.
    So all I could test are those.
     
  8. APE

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    The RCA jack sporting model is typically the 100x though I want to say there was another revision that had them. 99% of them you see will be 1001 for we North Americans.

    The 750x was a pretty hearty model getting a laser superior to any of the previous models yet not feeling the cost cutting measures Sony placed onto the 900x (it still had corners cut just not as many). The 900x line did lack the parallel port but there was a kit to add one as well as to the 10x PSOnes. It has been very hard to locate a kit but I may take a crack at making one if nobody has plans out there for one already. Couldn't be that hard if the solder points are known/easily mapped.

    I have a 1001 with the laser from a 101 and it seems to work half the time due to the connector for the laser assembly ribbon being somewhat broken and the total lack of anything resembling calibration done for it. Wouldn't be surprised if the stock POT trimmings weren't off just enough for it to hate me. I also need to fit a proper stealth chip inside as I wouldn't be shocked if whatever is inside wasn't causing a few problems. After I can get that squared away I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't "the best" revision available.
     
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  9. dj898

    dj898 Site Supporter 2015

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    I have/or maybe had the kit you are referring to.
    From memory there were fair number of parts and certainly not for someone with shaky hands... :p
     
  10. billcosbymon

    billcosbymon Guru Meditation Error

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    I really like the 1001, I replaced the laser with one from a mini and added a MM3 Modchip. Now it's working like a charm and it's a pretty good Hi-Fi CD player.
     
  11. Eviltaco64

    Eviltaco64 or your money back

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    Still have a stock SCPH-1001 (January 1997) that I got new from Funcoland in 2002.

    After 10 years of constant use, it still works like a charm every time.

    In terms of what's 'best':

    A/V Output goes to the SCPH-1000. Direct composite and S-Video out.
    --> The US/EU (1001/1002) variants are the next best thing.

    Reliability goes to the later model (75xx/9xxx) Playstations and the PSOne.

    Form factor and portability go to the SCPH-10x.

    Like all Sony consoles, the earlier models have a few extra bells and whistles but a weak laser, while the refined models cut out the bells and whistles for a stronger laser. I'd honestly say that the PSOne wins the battle, but it depends on what you prefer to do with the system. I never play CDs anymore, but I still enjoy the audio quality that comes from my original SCPH-1001. If that dies out, I know that PS1's of all forms are incredibly cheap and easy to find, so whatever I find first, I'll keep. :)
     
  12. dj898

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    from what I read with Playstation if you have KLV-15AP2 and VMC-AVM250 you can use the pure RGB signal from your Playstation.
    The problem being KLV-15AP2 was only released in Japan so you will have to get one from there - at least it's LCD TV so wouldn't weigh like ton with CRT TV...
     
  13. whitrzac

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    You can output RGB via component out cable(PS2/etc) and using a 100x with composite sync, or using the guncon breakout cable and using the composite sync on that...

    [​IMG]
     
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    yes but it looks like with the multi-av cable you can hook up directly via RGB 15Hz... bypassing all those cables and etc.
     
  15. Lum

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    The multi-av had RGB day one in 1994. It was mentioned by SCPH-1000's original box.

    However... An unmodified cable intended for YPbPr component won't display proper SCART type RGB. Console will output incomplete video, 3 pins isn't enough.
     
  16. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I can attest to the high audio quality of the SCPH-100x. It's not as good as a modern higher-end CD player, but for the price you can't do much better. Supposedly you can make it much better with some simple mods.
     
  17. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    So, does the higher audio quality affects games audio's too?
     
  18. alf717

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    I own the 5501 model since I first got a Playstation. I decided to stick with it once I broken my original so I bought another. Ended up getting the PSone model with screen a few summers ago on a nice eBay deal. However since I was losing patients trying to install a mochip I jacked the screen up a little with my iron and now have a dead pixel. Just this week I scored another one free with the screen and deck just needed to be cleaned up. I use to seek the old SCPH-1001 "audiophile" model but kind of just gave up on it. I'd still be using my original SCPH-5501 if I wasn't a bone head who ripped out the socket that powers the laser assembly.
     
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  19. derekb

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    wish the laser in my 1001 wasn't shitting out, considering putting a psone laser in
     
  20. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Yes for games that use redbook audio tracks. Ridge Racer, Mega Man X3, Mortal Kombat 3 and Trilogy, a number of others mostly older games. Newer games all tend to use XA audio.

    I got a SCPH-1001 for free from a friend. The laser assembly was dead. Bought a new PSOne (BAM model) assembly, just the plastic casing a bit so it would fit and put that in there. Works pretty well. Might need some adjustment though. I think the 1001 is supposed to use the ACM model. But I can't recall all the models. I think there are around 5 of them, give or take one. BAM is the last one which was for the PSOne.
     
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