Does anyone suffer from chronic pain or serious illness?

I have and would continue to do so if it weren't for the fact of my family members' views on it and the legality here even for medicinal use. So is the views of the older generations who grew up in the '40s and '50s...

 

Alright, i suffer from a severe case of OCD (Rituals, Contamination, etc). I do take Prozac 60mg every morning. I was diagnosed at the age of 11 (22 now)

 

You've got to be kidding me! If not, suggesting that others make an illicit drug their crutch for their problems is insane. In the bigger picture, it will only cause more problems down the line. Self-discipline and a plethora hobbies would be a far better building block when dealing with pain. The key is distraction.

 

Lol marijuana as a crutch you have to be kidding me right?

Its not addictive
You cant overdose on it
Its natural
Legal for medical use in most states

Take your backwards views somewhere else. Marijuana is a better medication then 95% of the prescription drugs people take

You only live once

What state do you live in?

 

I guess being thick boned might help, but I think luck is a bigger player there. A friend of mine fell asleep while on the highway and went off-road right into a highway sign post. The car was instantly destroyed and what was left of it went through several barrel rolls before stopping. He just walked out of the wreck absolutely unarmed wondering what had just happened, lucky bastard.

I know a woman with severe type 1 diabetes, since childhood. She suffers of several problems related to it, like joint problems, bad circulation, bad eyesight, and she had to stop working in her 50s because she could not do it anymore. But she is a positive and happy looking person despite all the crap. She actually looks pretty good for her age despite all the health problems. She also apparently grew some kind of "resistance" to diabetes if that makes sense.. Or maybe tolerance is a better term. She used to have those bad episodes where she would loose consciousness. But now she often does not realize when her blood sugar is going off the chart, despite checking it all the time, It can spike off at just anytime apparently.
She told me of one time she was at hospital and was not feeling well, they tested her blood and from the sugar level she had she would have been supposed to be in coma or something and the staff were shocked by the fact that she was still conscious.

Very bad advice. I agree that using many prescription drugs is not always the best idea, especially if you can do without them, and sometimes their side effects are worse than what they cure... But using weed is definitely not better, It fucks your brain up in the long run, causes memory problems and can trigger schizophrenia and anxiety disorders. Among other things.

 

Roflmao

Do your research you might get the munchies but its not gonna make you lose your mind......... your not gonna find any reputable source in the last five years that says weed is harmful to you its career suicide............

There has literally never been a case of someone dying of marijuana ...

I participated in a drug study in college where we gave users marijuana for 2 years ((were they able to do much high no but when the effect wore off they were fine)) mind you that was a 2 year study of patients coming in 3 times a week

Theres no actual proof marijuanna causes long term effects

Case in point give some a test when there 20 and then give them the same test when there 60 and everyone is gonna do worse its called aging ((its convienent for the MAN to say it was pot))

 

Dude. Quit trying to tell us all to smoke the stuff. It goes against forum rules. Take it to a forum FOR that stuff. You're no doctor. If so then you shouldn't be trying to prescribe shit to us without an in depth examination.

 

Chronic pain is what suffer from after almost losing my leg about 5 years ago. I try to manage it with narcotic and non-narcotic medications combined with some physical therapy just to keep it all the scar tissue inside loosened up a little. I've just had to learn to live with the lose of mobility at a fairly young age an along with the pain which the medications do help sometimes and all the side effects that come with meds plus the lack of sleep since either my leg or the meds tend to give me insomnia. I just look at it like it could always be worse, there's always somewhere out there suffering far more than I am and I'm lucky to be able to do what I still can at least.

 

When it comes to weed you have to be doing heavy amounts daily to get the issues people suggest like Schizo and "anxiety disorders" (of which I've never seen a bit of proof other than Tabloids mentioning that).

Of course that isn't even a risk when it comes to using it to treat pain, a small (literally tiny theraputic) amounts when you have pain and you're fine. Have some fucking willpower and stop over smoking it.

 

Smoke weed everyday, pharmaceutical companies don't deserve your pay.

Your last sentence is fucking beautiful, btw, as it counteracts soooo many of the "slippery slope" fallacies that people who seem so adamant against weed prop up. Especially when it is just for medicinal use! You can take more painkillers that you were prescribed than you have to, as well. Self control, numb nuts.

 

Lol

No one told you to smoke

The op is asking for advice in similar situations and i offered it now move along. And quit taking the thread off topic

 

I'd also concur that weed is certainly non-addictive, I can go a year smoking then not smoke it for a year and not feel any different (whatsover) - as a pain killer, I guess it works but I can't say I took it for physical pain, more just to relax mentally and live life in the slow lane - which is what a lot of people forget even exists. It does affect mood though, depending on environment. Used in moderation it's fine... just like anything else in life.

As for OTC drugs, I don't know - these things ARE tested and are on the marketplace for a reason. If u have a headache, or migraine weed isn't going to cure it, but a paracetamol or aspirin will. Different drugs cure different things, rather obviously.

The only ones I'd be extremely cautious of are anti-depressants. I honestly don't feel enough is known about the brain. I tried them for a brief while and armed with my knowledge and experience of other heavier psychedelics I can honestly say there was something very, very, wrong with how they made me feel. Depression is a complex issue and to say a pill is going to cure it seems downright ludicrous to me. I find anti-depressants the most worrying form of medication. A strong will and determination to simply deal with the matter is the best medicine...

No long term prob personally although lately I've been having severe problems with my right eye - I have full vision in my left eye but my right eye can hurt a lot... seems there's nothing I can do about it but it doesn't feel like it's getting any better.

 

Any drug can become addictive.
It's possible to overdose on anything if someone were to go hog wild with it.
Natural doesn't necessarily equal good.
As of now it's still illegal in several places. And therein is the main problem aside from impaired judgment, which alcohol is similarly guilty of.

I'm sorry friend, but a backwards view in my eye is any suggestion of the need for something that isn't necessary and doesn't actually solve a problem without possibly causing another.
As for the other medications you speak of, I'll have to agree with you there. They aren't any better than MJ in any way. To put it simply, relying on something to sidestep a problem is essentially a crutch. Which is why such things should be at the very bottom of any list regarding suggestions for dealing with something as serious as pain. Much of what we perceive to be pain resides in the mind itself and that is probably the best place to start.

 

Its is impossible to overdose on weed

And no you cannot become addicted to it

I dont know why everyone i hooked up on this "crutch" term ................ all i have said is that you have a chronic illness and your being pumped full of pills as a way to combat your illness then maybe you should smoke some weed...

If weed is a crutch then i guess so is coca cola and coffee...............


20 states allow the use of marijuana for medical use

The whole pain in the mind thing sounds good when you wright it down but how are you gonna magically make back pain go away or migranes or knee pain one answer your not .......and its not a crutch to need help dealing with that pain ...its called life

I apologize in advance if i have offended anyone or if my words are a little blunt this is obviously a touchy subject... i respect everyone for continuing to have such an adult discussion so far

 

I know many people who've developed mental illness because of this stuff. Maybe for medical use I can see it's point, but when people defend the fucking drug like it's a completely and utterly harmless it's bullshit.

 

Lol pics or didnt happen

Again not to sound rude but thats just a silly comment to make

 

What other term might you use for something that a person might heavily rely upon? I hate to break it to you, if someone is being pumped full of prescription pills and there's absolutely no reduction in pain, I highly doubt MJ will do any better. Sure, if someone is addicted to caffeine, then those things can be considered a crutch. One doesn't need caffeine to live or perform tasks, nor does it improve them.

Twenty states I'm deeply disappointed in since I'm against anything mind altering being legalized. But at least they should have a drop in inmates, which at least will be less of a burden on tax payers.

No one ever said it was a magic bullet, which is precisely the point. There is no such thing as a magic bullet when there's a complex problem to deal with. Finding ways to deal with pain with your mind first is just the first step. Since no two people are alike, they'll have to adjust things to fit their lives accordingly. Having a hobby or project would be the next logical step. Anything that will naturally cause your brain to release endorphins or give a sense of accomplishment go a long way. So pretty much anything that will keep you active and distracted enough will get you going down the right path, plus you'll become productive.

No offense here friend, I enjoy a good discussion from time to time. All I ask, is that if you're going to give advice to others, start small before suggesting something drastic and possibly illegal.

 

http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/...ow/slide/americans-increasingly-favor-reform/

Some of you would do good to read this i dont mean to be a stickler but it seems as if most of you no nothing of marijuana and have only ever heard 3rd hand knowledge

 

I can't tell if you're being an advocate for something or just a troll at this point. No one is going to take you seriously if you derail this far off topic.
Making assumptions about the knowledge of others without any lengthy discussion is folly. Unless you want to get back on topic, farewell.

 

There doesn't need to be pics. That's a stupid comment.

I wouldn't make shit up for the fun of it. Honestly... The stupid comment "it's natural" is stupid, everything natural isn't harmless. Do you eat mushrooms from the grass in the street?