Dreamcast 2?

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  1. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    http://www.videogamer.com/news/06-12-2007-7049.html

    Sega is renewing the Dreamcast trademark, so some people are taking it to mean that they are releasing new hardware.

    If they release a successor to the Dreamcast, I would be all over it if it was $300=<. This is coming from someone who is not at all interested in the current generation of game hardware (not enough to consider purchase of any of them, at least).
     
  2. sabre470

    sabre470 Site Supporter 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015

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    Just renewal of Dreamcast trademark, I wouldn't get excited, SEGA and the Dreamcast are associated with console failure...

    It could mean though that we could get soon some DC games on XBL or PSN maybe even VC who know...
     
  3. fisheye

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    There are enough machines on the market, I doubt sega would be that crazy. They are just ensuring no one picks up the dreamcast name or something.
     
  4. Segafreak_NL

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    What he said.
     
  5. saturn_worship

    saturn_worship Intrepid Member

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    but why?? it's suppossed they abandoned that long ago...

    i don't think a dreamcast 2 is viable now. But you guys forgot 2 points.

    1. Make a console is nothing of one day, i'm sure that if sega returns it will NEVER be until 2010 as soon.

    2. Dreamcast was not a failure, it was ps2, ps2 preceed ps1, and in those days, sega got no money. Dreamcast got a really strong scene and is well considered ( exactly the opposite to mega cd or 32x).
     
  6. SuperGrafx

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    Shareholders would never approve another console in the next decade. Their publisher-only strategy is working out for the time being, no sense mucking around with money-losing hardware just yet.
     
  7. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    No reason they couldn't do a Dreamcast-on-a-chip design...
     
  8. Johnny Vodka

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    why not go for the wii crowd? The dreamcast had tons of weird quirky games that didn't seem to have as much broad appeal as they would today.

    I don't know why you would come out with a new console carrying the name of a failure, but they could go low budget, dreamcast tech rehash with this for sure.
     
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  9. GaijinPunch

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    It was a disaster on all fronts (except the one that doesn't means shit, unfortunately: The creative one).

    Besides, who cares if they make another console. Sega isn't Sega anymore.
     
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  10. saturn_worship

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    "Besides, who cares if they make another console. Sega isn't Sega anymore."

    ha , people stays telling that since 1994.

    who knows, i personally think another console is not viable by now.

    but hey, the Dreamcast name is not connected with failure, as saturn or mega cd could be.

    anyways, maybe they want to re-release it as a low budget, or who the hell knows.

    but if they try to do something, you all guys must admit they GOT BIG BALLS.
     
  11. kendrick

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    Sega's corporate decision making has always baffled me. They tend to do wonderful things with technology and make products that gamers love. But nothing they ever did looked like it was intended to make money. Even stuff they pioneered (like online console connectivity or speech recognition) didn't get the marketing or the press attention that it deserved, and other companies came in to steal that glory.

    I do agree that it's unlikely Sega will produce any new hardware. However, I wouldn't put it past them to recycle old boards for markets where they still have some pull, like in South America.
     
  12. A. Snow

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    Basically Sega doesn’t want anyone else snagging the name and bringing something like the "Dreamcast" dildo to market so they are covering their bases.
     
  13. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Well making a portable DC would be cheap today, plus the big amount of AAA games would give it a solid launch ground to take a sizable piece of the portable market.

    On the other hand sammy's execs seem to be following most of nintendo's strategies lately (like whoring the sonic franchise like nintendo did with mario during the N64 and GC days) so I wouldnt be surprised if SEGA tried to battle nintendo again with a cheap yet innovative console to fight against the Wii in the exact same market segment:eek:h:

    After all, they could make a console thats slighlty more powerful than the Wii, yet cheap enough to sell it for much less (like $149;-)) and with motion controllers, either like the Wiimote or like the gyropod.

    On the other hand it could be just a standard corporate action to protect their IP...
     
  14. MottZilla

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    I'm sure it's just protecting their assets. Nothing exciting. Just the internet rumor mill.
     
  15. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    i miss the times when there were 5-6 different machines and companies. It was really fun. now the 3 sided market sucks. At least for me.

    anyway the dreamcast on a chip is already real... since 2-3 years such things exists and all people wonder why nobody used it for a portable gaming device.

    and also, i think too that sega is no more sega. Nothing good from them came out after 1994 or such.
     
  16. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Well, a man can dream, right?:nod:
     
  17. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    Yeah, I'm not getting too psyched over it - it may be something special but equally it may be so that a) other people can't market an electronics product called 'Dreamcast' (such as crappy 8-bit Chinese nonsense), and b) so they can use their branding in the future.

    Re: Dreamcast 'dongs', the trademark doesn't cover that so such a thing could be made without trademark conflict.

    Here's what's covered by the patent refresh:

    * Home video game machines;
    * player-operated electronic controllers for electronic video game machines;
    * video game interactive controller, namely, hand held pads, and floor pads or mats;
    * joysticks for video games;
    * computer cursor control devices, namely, computer mouse;
    * flash memory cards;
    * video game software,
    * computer game programs.
     
  18. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    On the flip-side, here's what was covered in the original trademark (filed 1998, updated 2001 and available at http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=75528322 )

    * Video game machines for use with television;
    * video game machine peripheral devices, namely, control-pad, control-wheel, control-stick, controller in the shape of a hand gun, controller in the shape of a fishing rod grip, mouse, video signal converter for connection to computer RGB display, modem, time-division multiplexer for digital phone network, memory card, floppy disc drive, hard disc drive and full keyboard;
    * computer game programs; computer game cartridges, discs and cassettes;
    * video game programs;
    * home video computer game programs;
    * home video computer game cartridges, disks and cassettes;
    * computers;
    * computer peripheral devices, namely, modem, time-division multiplexer for digital network, full-keyboard, display, printer, coordinate plotter, memory card, hard disc drive, floppy disc drive, compact disc drive, controller for video game or simulator program, mouse, and joy stick;
    * computer programs for use in setup of computer operating systems, communication control on a computer network, managing e-mail, web browsing and network game play;
    * musical sound recordings;
    * musical video recordings;
    * communication apparatus, namely, telephone and video-phone for use with a global computer network and satellite and telephone communication;
    * interactive television terminal sets;
    * television set top boxes for reception of coded or compressed audio, video or data signals;
    * KAROKE players;
    * CD-ROM players;
    * and parts for all aforesaid goods.

    I must also note that, IIRC trademarks don't expire as long as they are still seen as used by a company. Interestingly, instead of just renewing their old trademark they have taken out a further one which seems to cover them from 'knockoffs' rather than citing original products.
     
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  19. drx

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    Because it has started sucking around 1994 (disastrous SOJ management: the letting go of Tom Kallinske, and other minor stupid decisions, like breaking Sonic 3 in two and releasing Sonic & Knuckles, then rushing the 32x, then rushing the Saturn). With the crappy management, Sega started pissing off third-party developers, one of the main reasons Megadrive was so popular and why it was such a success in the US, leaving them on ice a number of times.

    And right now, dream on. Sega is not what it used to be. What SuperGrafx said - it's owned by someone else right now (Sammy). Sammy would never allow anything like that, it reduced Sega to a 'manufacturer' of low-profile pachinko games mostly.

    Besides, I wonder if you can name at least ten people who worked at Sega in 1989-93 and still do.
     
  20. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    From a business stand-point, the only way SEGA could release a console is if some other corporation decides to buy them off of sammy.
     
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