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Discussion in 'Price Check Forum' started by Teancum, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Teancum

    Teancum Intrepid Member

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    Don't have a picture of one. Imagine a standard gamecube drive but not standard. :p Any way wondering how much someone would expect just the drive to sell for. Some may recall that rcmadiax has one now.

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  2. rcmadiax

    rcmadiax Spirited Member

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    Let me know what you guys think. I told Teancum $100 bucks as I figured that what I could expect to get on eBay by sliding it in the extra cube I have. LMK.
     
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  3. hl718

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    Seems like a fair price. The NR systems going for big money on eBay are complete with box and accessories.

    Basic systems seem to be closing more around the $125-$150 range.

    Figure the value is in the drive as a bare GC can be had for pretty much nothing, knock off a few bucks for eBay fees and knock off a few more for a standard cube housing not being multi-region and $100 sounds about right.

    I'd say if you did $100 shipped (assuming you're both in the same country) it'd be a fair deal. If it has to go international, then $100 + shipping. Shipping just a drive should be cheaper than shipping a drive mounted in a cube.
     
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    I thought the drive was the same, it's the drive controller & BIOS that is slightly different.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    The drive is the difference between a NR reader and a retail unit.

    If you put a NR reader drive into a retail console - it will grant it NR reader powers.

    The drive controller is on the drive unit (pcb under the laser and such).
     
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    The region freedom on NR Reader units is a thing too.
     
  8. TriMesh

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    That's just a switch connected to the logic board. If you install the same switch on a retail unit you can also switch that between USA/JPN.
     
  9. rcmadiax

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    £65 included UK shipping for the whole console.

    So $98 within the UK gets you a NR reader console, shipped.

    So please explain how $100 within the US just for the drive is anywhere near realistic?

    You say shipping a drive is cheap - so you could have bought the entire console for £65, got him to ship you just the drive and throw the rest away and it would still have been cheaper than your $100 price.

    Like i said, seems a little over the top. (I paid £20 for my NR reader! - and yes, the seller knew what it was. I admit the laser was knackered, but you just swap one from a retail drive).

    What you can expect on ebay is often very different to what you could pick something up for on a forum. Asking people here will get you the forum price, considering this is a forum that this type of stuff gets sold on often.


    How about this: http://www.assemblergames.com/forum...ips-64DD-Games-and-Nintendo-Development-items

    Thats an NR reader with a retail drive (which according to the above, cost nothing). So that means the console with a retail drive and modchip is worth £50. The NR reader is £65. That means with the power of math the drive is worth £15 as thats the price difference.

    Maybe if you include the cost of modding the cube (say £20-30? and I am being generous) that makes the drive £35-£45. which is more like $50-70 max.

    So like my original comment said - $100 seems a little high to me.
     
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  11. Logi26

    Logi26 Site Supporter 2014

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    I would have to agree that $100 is way too much just for the drive.
    I would say that a standard retail console with NR drive is worth about half of a proper NR reader, maybe less. After all no collector is going to be interested in buying it.

    I just bought an NR reader off ebay last week with the seals intact for £77 ($116) so imo $100 just for the drive is crazy, $45 seems more realistic. maybe $65-$70 max with it fitted in a retail console.
     
  12. hl718

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    One item on offer cheaply isn't a good point of reference. For example, Wombat has a unit for sale for €250 right now. It has a box, but is missing a controller and is PAL, so no region switch. Individual prices vary greatly from market prices on forums.

    Hell, just look at all the people here who want crazy money for rather useless RVT-H units. When someone made an offer on one in the marketplace, a mod chastized them for lowballing. Except the offer wasn't in any way a lowball, the seller was simply asking a crazy high price in the first place.

    eBay and other forums are a good guide to overall sales. $125-150 for a bare NR unit is about right. Like any device, when it is parted out, chances are the total cost of the parts will sell more than their individual value. When retail cubes go for around $10-15 daily, it's difficult to argue that the value of a bare NR reader is anywhere other than in its ability to read NR discs.

    That is just NTSC units. And it's a switch that can be put on any retail unit. PAL units are single region.

    If £65 NR Readers are easily available, then perhaps OP should just buy one of those? The cost estimate is realistic IMHO because there aren't a large number of low cost NR Readers on the market available for sale.
     
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    NR reader with retail drive is on this very forum for £50, if NR readers with their original drive sell for $125-155 (which makes it £80-110) then the drive is worth £30-60, which is like $45-90 tops. So your $100, would be very very top end. But even then, your NR reader price for a unit on its own (not boxed, etc) is still too high imo.

    £65 for an NR reader is not uncommon, its also still for sale - obviously not that massive bargain you are making it out to be.


    So far, the only people who think its worth $100 is you and someone with one for sale.

    Anyway, I am not trying to be as confrontational as I am likely coming across. I just disagree with the $100 figure, we will see what other people have to say.
     
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  14. hl718

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    Some of it likely has to do with region. I see US sellers with NR Readers available much less frequently than I do PAL land sellers.

    And someone who is buying and selling in US dollars, is probably in North America and looking to play NTSC NR games. In that case the £65 PAL NR Reader isn't as much of a deal because:

    1) They're paying the £65, but all they can use is the drive.
    2) They're probably paying more for shipping/customs than getting it from the same region.
    3) They still have to pull the drive and put it in a NTSC cube.

    BTW, no offense at the differing opinions. Love a healthy debate on this stuff. Price check forum could use more of it! :)

    BTW, while I love kiff, I don't personally think that his NR reader with retail drive (basically a retail system) for £50 is much of a deal. As is, it's a frankenbox. I don't see it as any different than a standard retail that's been repaired by a third party and had a mod chip dropped in, tho that's just my personal opinion.

    I don't think enough NR shells have sold to determine a fair market price. :)
     
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    Well, if PAL NR readers are more common, get one and replace the motherboard with a NTSC one from a retail unit?

    Anyway, the point was - for £65 (so like $98) you could just get the drive shipped. Considering the price included UK shipping of the whole unit, the shipping of the drive to the US wouldnt cost any (or much) more. So its still sub $100, even doing it the most wasteful way possible, hence why I dont believe $100 is realistic when you can get it for it the same price and throw away the rest of an NR reader and match the price.
     
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  16. rcmadiax

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    I see this got a little out of hand here... Looks like I'm putting it on eBay :)
     
  17. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    An NR Reader with a box just sold for 128$. Disappointed I missed it -_-
     
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