English Aero Fighters 3 Home Cart

It's interesting to see, but it also reminds me of my exact words on the KoF2000 verification thread:
http://www.assemblergames.com/forum...0-Verification&p=564827&viewfull=1#post564827


Just as I predicted back in December of 2011.

I hate to say I told you so, but.....
That was posted on December 21, 2011 - months and months BEFORE the AeroFighters 3 / Power Spikes 2 fraud happened.
Too bad more people didn't listen to what I was trying to warn people about. The writing was on that wall that sooner or later
a high quality counterfeit would be made.
I feel bad for anyone who has scammed by DavidG(??), Tonk/Mike Dicioccio, SuperGun/Billy Pitt, and Kilselgof/Mikhail Kiselgof.
All are/were members on assemblergames as well.

These guys have been the most vocal and the 4 biggest scammers in the neogeo scene.

The Fraudulent Four
1. Mike Dicioccio
2. Billy Pitt
3. Mikhail Kiselgof
4. DavidG (may not be his real name)

BEWARE!!!
AVOID THESE 4 PEOPLE AT ALL TIMES!!

As the the old saying goes....
"The person who always cries foul is usually committing most of the biggest fouls."
or in simpler terms....
"The first who smelt it, dealt it."

Zupapa is 100% official, authorized, and licensed by SNK and NGF
I've said many times that a few titles such as Diggerman and Zupapa, were missing from the playmore press release due to human error.
Here is a revised addendum press release from Playmore which states all NGF corrected inserts are official and authorized, and also lists Diggerman and Zupapa.

http://web.archive.org/web/20031109022730/http://www.snkplaymore.jp/information/en_press15.html - Diggerman, Zupapa
http://web.archive.org/web/20050208171535/http://www.snkplaymore.jp/information/en_press15.html - full list

NGF inserts have always been 100% official, authorized, and fully licensed by SNK. (just read the press releases)

 

I was pretty skeptical from the get go, the whole deal sounded incredibly suspect. Someone on N-G made a good comment

David says he will refund the money, but not until he is able to recoup it from the ton of Neogeo snapboxes he bought from SNK.

Frankly I'm amazed none of the buyers have started posting David's personal information online for everyone to access, unless they're just waiting til finally repaid. I'd certainly make that guys life a living hell after this ordeal.

 

since their is fake games going around does this mean that fake Neo Geo consoles will appear sooner or later ? like for example a nes clone ( famiclone )

 

I can understand Zupapa but Diggerman? Official? Even on the master list it states as homebrew.
It's not even developed by SNK, as far as I know.
A 44MB game in the end of SNK's life?
The same year SvC Chaos came out with 700mb.

 

Most games on the neogeo weren't developed by snk. There are many third party developers: ADK, Saurus, Taito, Hudson,
Aicom, Nazca, NMK, Data East, Video System, Yumekobo, Visco, Eolith, Face, etc...

NG.com "Master list" is filled with errors
How many times do people need to hear and learn facts from the real source, and not just from ng.com before they can accept the true reality?
Ng.com was started by a person that both Chris and I originally helped get into the entire neogeo scene. We also helped him become a reseller.


Diggerman
Some people still wonder about the origins of Diggerman.
Diggerman was an unfinished game from Face, much the same was Treasure of the Caribbean is.
Both were based on early Face jamma programming.

Diggerman turned up many years ago from a proto board after SNK-USA closed down.
Video Game Depot picked up thousands of MVS boards, carts, etc...and they came across Diggerman.
The game was then dumped by a guy name Kyle (if I remember correctly) and then sold in lots to an
arcade cabinet reseller (Ken at the Game Warehouse, now known as the Game Room/gameroom.com).
Ken is not a programmer or anything like that. I've personally met him many times and he has been to my house)
(later redumped and sold to people in the UK).

Diggerman is very similar to how Treasure of the Caribbean is an unreleased/lost program jamma game from Face,
and how it was hacked it to run on the neogeo system

Diggerman - licensed and authorized by SNK.



http://web.archive.org/web/200311090...n_press15.html - Diggerman, Zupapa, and others


Meg Count
Meg counts mean nothing when talking about a release year of a game.
For example, Puzzle de Pon and Puzzle de Pon R: developed by Face are only 30/32 Megs.
and Flip Shot: developed by Visco is only 46 Megs. All 3 of those games were released when other
games had meg counts passing 500 & 600 megs and and reaching close to 700 megs.

 

Never say never ...


Fake MVS1


Fake MVS2

Taking such chips into making a fake AES is no brainer... lol

Edit: Pictures from the Neo Geo dev wiki.

 

Wow. $30k for a game only to have it turn out fake?

 

Famiclones mostly use the NES-on-a-chip. You're never going to get all that on one chip. Nobody would bother trying.

 

thanks for the info, nice to see that you are still engaging with all this Dion, especially after you have been called a Liar repeatedly on various forums etc. but at least you provide proof of what you are saying, and its good to have someone who had a lot of information from behind the scenes who can give us some background on alot of these issues, personally i still cant believe someone actually paid $30,000 for a game but neo geo fans are generally crazy

 

While you have a point, a little before SNK broke they managed to paid Fujitsu to put most of the Neo Geo into a 3 chip chipset. Should they had survived another 4 years there would be a one-chip legit Neo Geo unit.

 

Poor, poor Dion. Harbored so much anger against me and others for so many years, now SALIVATING at the first opportunity he has to post lies about us.

The internet is an amazing thing. People can post anything and people will believe it. Unfortunately, Dion has mastered the art of posting lies which, combined with his BOLD POSTS, and photos of him wearing a suit and tie with a smirk on his face, people will believe.

What in the world would make him so mad at me where he comes in here and says I'm a "MASTER FRAUD" and a "SCAMMER"? I'll tell you guys, because it's really quite simple.

1. Many years ago, his house was raided by agents while he was in his underwear and had all his games seized due to an injunction lawsuit by SNK Playmore, the only company in the world who can say what is official and what is not. After this costly and embarrassing incident (I heard his wife was angry at him), Dion and Chris STIPULATED in court (meaning agreed) to a permanent injunction being entered against them prohibiting them from selling counterfeit games. That injunction remains in effect today. Dion and Chris always blamed me for "helping Playmore" in the suit, which is 100% untrue as I had no involvement. They also weren't happy that I could read the court documents and tell people what they really meant. It is Dion and Chris who are subject of the permanent injunction suit by Playmore, not the other way around.

2. I have never recognized any of his fake games on the Master List.
Before Dion points to those Playmore posts, and before you guys can say anything, I will ACKNOWLEDGE That Playmore has said NGF had "permission" to sell altered and fake games. However, just because you have a license or permission to make a game does not mean the game came from SNK, which is the only thing the Master List was ever concerned about. Those Diggerman and Zupapa carts are MVS CONVERSIONS. That means Dion and Chris ruined SNK-made games and trasferred desoldered chips onto a home cartridge, printed some paper materials and sold them. They were not made by SNK, so they are not on the list and they never will be.

Dion is, and has always been, the ultimate plague of the Neo Geo community. His lies were what prompted the need to create a "Master List" in the first place. His judgment about me actually helps me sleep better at night, I never knew before now how angry and bitter he has been over my whatever my part was in de-legitimizing NGF forever. But, I certainly know that the Neo Geo community is better for it.

I've never scammed or lied to anyone, neither has Billy Pitt, Mike DiCioccio, or Mikhail Kiselgof. The same is not true of Dion and NGF. Go onto Neo-geo.com and read all the threads there to figure it out, everything that you guys need to know is there.

You guys keep kissing Dion's ass, you'll get the internet drama you want. Get too close and you'll learn your lesson like all of us did many years ago.

 

I don't think anyone here is 'kissing Dion's ass' buddy

 

when all else fails, just attack with childish banter
lol. Hilarious. Such childish rants.

Playmore took us to court over the wrongful information.
Chris and I were taken to court with a $2,000,000 (two million) suit. NGF WON!!!

When we went to court, playmore offered us a lucrative settlement, issued the press release stating
NGF inserts and cartridges (even the conversions) are 100% official and authorized.


Proof of Supergun/Billy Pitt's involvement.
Look at the recent posts by Billy Pitt in which he is clearly on the defensive.
As soon as I said the game was fake and was made using the english cd manual, who were the first two people
to get defensive and start replying....
1. Mike Dicioccio = posting under the fake alias of Skymathematics
2. Billy Pitt.

Conversion/Retrofit is not a bad word
If SNK gave us authorization, then the game is authorized and official. Playmore verified this as well.
The fact that you and the other moderators at ng.com refuse to list all NGF releases shows just how biased you guys are against NeoGeoFreak.


master list = master farse
NGF releases and other NGF retrofits should be listed as NGF exclusives and maybe use an asterisk.
By not having all NGF games included really makes the master list seem like a master farse.
That's childish and just very, very sad.

 

It's ok Dion, I'm not mad. Just try to calm down. People now know the facts and can figure it out themselves.

 

stop deflecting - no one cares about NGF history that happened over 10 years ago.

lets talk about the now

you were involved in a scam. DavidG never worked for SNK and was producing high quality conversion carts. I fail to see how the entire AF3/PS2 story ever got this far if Tonk/Pitt and you did some background checks against the *person*. It took all of 5 minutes and background checking after David G's 'reveal' to realize that he is not being honest. Since you have continually defended this person it makes you a scammer as well.

So, sure, keep attacking NFG for stuff that is ancient history if it makes you feel better. But consider the fact there are many many people in the neo-geo scene that you have slighted.

 

Actually, the permanent injunction against NGF is not ancient history, it is still very much in full force and effect today.

As for AF3, it's all on Neo-geo.com. I'm not a scammer and I have never lied or sold a fake game to anyone. If you can't digest the 1000 of posts on the subject to arrive at the truth that is your problem, not mine. Get your facts straight.

 

no one is kissing his ass! you guys are like children, just grow up

i honestly couldn't care less if Dion & Chris hacked up games, reprinted inserts etc. he has documents showing that they were allowed to do this and that everything they produced was Authorised! - what more do you actually want?

even if SNK/Playmore/Whoever (seriously i dont care) were not aware of what they were doing and were against it, they still signed the documents to say that they were authorising NGF's work so why do you persist after all these years to make them out to be liars?

Dion may not be perfect but he sure as hell presents himself better than 99% of the neo geo community i have come across

Just wanted to mention that this also makes you look like a twat

These guys have been the most vocal and the 2 biggest scammers in the neogeo scene.

The Terrible Two (a.k.a. "NGF")
1. Dion Dakis
2. Chris Ray

These 2 are subject to a permanent injunction, entered in Federal Court, prohibiting them from selling counterfeit SNK/SNK Playmore items.They hold a grudge about it and blame people who aren't in any way responsible by putting their names in their signature to try to ruin their reputation.

BEWARE!!!
AVOID THESE 2 PEOPLE AT ALL TIMES!!

 

My facts are straight - you are not being honest. No one will do business with you anymore - your reputation has been destroyed by this. But please, kept telling yourself your not a scammer - if it makes you sleep better then more power to you

Again - how is it that when the 'reveal' was made, it took all of 5 minutes for the community to learn it was a scam - And you guys somehow go months and months being 'convinced' and convincing the public that the game was real?

Sorry but no, that is just absurd and insulting. Where is DavidG now? have you noticed he hasn't been heard from in days - while the community is left to pick up the pieces and argue about it.

And while we are at it - How much did you pay for your copy of AF3?

 

atleast Dion didn't scam people with $30,000 carts *shrug*

I do agree though, Dion you don't need to come spew the NGF history up in here

beyond the reported $30k sale none of them seem willing to disclose the costs, I'd be pretty embarassed if I admitted to giving some dude 30k for a fake cart