Evil Night Board Issue

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  1. NTM

    NTM Rapidly Rising Member

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    Got in a Evil Night board thats having problems after the device check. After 11K is OK, it gives a Hardware Error. For the hell of it, I put in my bios from my Vice board and it does the same thing. I haven't yet tried to swap the sub boards to possibly see if is related to that or not.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. iamaduck

    iamaduck Active Member

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    The battery inside the sub-board Timekeeper/RTC SRAM is probably dead.

    The game checks the contents of the EEPROM against the SRAM and throws an error if they mismatch. It's a copy-protection of sorts and you can't re-initialise either :/

    Your best bet is to run a patched CD without the EEPROM/RTC checks.

    BTW, what version of Evil Night is it?
     
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  3. NTM

    NTM Rapidly Rising Member

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    UBA is the CD, bios is 636A01

    I did notice the battery on the sub board and immediately thought it was a suicide chip... Oh well, at least there's ways around it.
     
  4. NTM

    NTM Rapidly Rising Member

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    I'll try the test switch method this evening. Thanks

    Edit: Test switch method didnt fix my non booting board.
     
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  5. NTM

    NTM Rapidly Rising Member

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    It should be the correct disc, the bios and sub boards match what a Evil Night should be. Here's what I tried:
    - original Evil Night disk.
    - burn of Hell Night
    - burn of Heat of 11 (just for fun)
    - original Total Vice

    All give the hardware error. Think my bios could be bad? I can try burning an eprom.
     
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    As I mentioned, it'll either be invalid EEPROM or Timekeeper data (and you can't re-initialise either until after its verified them). Stand by for a solution. ;-)
     
  7. fslbob

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    I have the same issue, was this ever solved?
     
  8. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Holding the test switch will skip the verification and immediately re-init
     
  9. fslbob

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    thanks will try tonight.
     
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    no joy on holding the test switch. just gives device check 11, then hardware error. any other ideas? anyone have a pdf of the manual?
     
  11. 3dodev1

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    Ditto. Same issue with two of my m2 arcade boards. Did anyone managed to "nop out" the whole hardware check so far?
     
  12. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Mine started to do this at some point recently, sad. I went to play it today and no go.
     
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    There is no suicide battery!

    I Finally found a solution to this problem! I went to a professional solderer with a new timekeeper chip, he installed it for me! serial number is M48T58Y-70PC1 got it on mouser.com he replaced it and now I'm playing evil night again! here's the link to the chip.

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/M48T58Y-70PC1/?qs=k9dH/x4GHJDIJZYAfkeDkA==

    18 bucks and now i have a fully functional board, there is no suicide battery on the evil night board, a simple replace of this chip allows it to go past 11k check with no hardware error.
     
  15. pitsunami

    pitsunami 3DO maniac

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    Thats really great news mate! I was thinking about it several months ago but was afraid to remove the old one...

    Thanks for letting us know,now i have five boards to fix. :)
     
  16. hotd34me

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    pro

    make sure whoever solders the chip is a PROFESSIONAL, even one pin is soldered slightly wrong it'll get past the 11k ok screen and do an rtc check and then say rtc error. i know this because i bought a rtc chip and tried soldering myself, and that's what happened. he did it and poof the game started up
     
  17. APE

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    Cold solder joints will do that.
     
  18. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Good to know that it is fixable.
     
  19. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    These timekeeper chips have an "fuel gauge" monitor for the battery. I suppose the game just checks if the battery is flat and tosses an hardware error message if so.



    By the way one can "open" these chips (In fact, break the epoxi, remove the old battery and add a new battery socket) and manually add an external battery.

    I've done that on my SGI Indy when it's timekeeper chip gone "kaputt". :lol:
     
  20. hotd34me

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    newsflash

    it seems that the guy that replaced my old rtc chip did a bad job. he was able to keep a supplied power to the rom chips somehow while he replaced the old one and failed to tell me that he had to do so while replacing it. he also failed to tell me that the old one had enough juice in it to be able to use this fancy machine to copy information from the old one to the new one. finally, he did a bad solder job and one of the joints cracked when i put slight pressure on top of the chip, i just did it because i'm always pokin around shit but it's a good thing i did. anyhow, I did find someone who has vast experience in konami m2 boards and has fixed quite a few. here's the procedure. get the rom for 'X' Konami m2 game you need repairs for, you must desolder the rom chip off the board and reinject from the mame rom the proper info to that chip, then you must do the same with the rtc chip. a new bought one of course and some data must be modified because of region problems. I don't know if this guy will do this for anyone else so I will ask him and if he is willing to help someone else out for a few bucks i will let everyone know. stay tuned for next update within a couple days.
     
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