Game companies continuosly lowering their quality standards.

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  1. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Funny how not being a "believer" in either side automatically makes you a wingnut or a commie...

    Greenwashing its BIG money these days, you have NGOs with idiots making 6 figures just for harassing other idiots working at PR in big corporations

    There are better alternatives than no manuals, like using bio-plastics for the box, or just making it smaller like it was back in the day

    What you have now is the result of corporations and NGOs colliding to protect their interests, not the environment

    Is like carbon credits: that shit is the biggest scam ever, there's literally no control on who is selling those "credits" and how they offload the CO2, but they more money for them and the corporations get to keep pumping poison into the air for cheap, win-win!

    .............except for us.
     
  2. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    That was only nintendo though.
     
  3. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    No, Genesis games were like that too, in the US at least. Not all of them, though.
     
  4. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Many other publishers used card as well, but besides that at least they manuals instead of leaflets.
     
  5. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    never seen a card boxed genesis game, other then the ones packaged with an accessory they were all in plastic cases that clipped closed same with the master system games at least in the uk they were, nintendo games did use card alot nes, gameboy, snes, n64, gba.

    32x games used card but i never had any nor the 32x itself.
     
  6. Lum

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    Sonic & Knuckles had a box instead of clamshell in both Europe and Japan.
     
  7. synrgy87

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    yeah that is true i forgot about that one, although that was a odd shaped cart
     
  8. 7Force

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    I have the US version of Vectorman, it's in an all-cardboard box.
     
  9. synrgy87

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    pal vectorman one was a plastic case, majority of the uk saturn games came in a car / plastic case whereas us ones seemed to come in a plastic case

    must have been whatever was cheaper and easier at the time in each region
     
  10. 7Force

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    What I've read is that US Saturn cases were leftover Sega CD cases, no idea if it's true but it'd make sense, since they're identical. What is true is that PAL Saturn cases were designed as part of an experiment to make the worst game boxes imaginable.
     
  11. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Really, that's crap but yet again it could be because it was cheaper to make. In Europe and Japan all Sega games were in plastic clamshell type boxes apart from Sonic & Knuckles (Euro & JPN) and the unlicensed Accoliade games such as RBI Baseball and Test Drive. However they did have pretty well made boxes.

    Oh, you mean the first PAL Saturn cases that had card glued on to plastic? Yeah, they were total bollocks. They did change them in the end for clamshell cases but I remember them being very hard to open.

    The Japanese got it right with Saturn and Dreamcast games. Just put them in to normal CD cases. Easy to store, cheap to make and they are easy to replace.
     
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  13. synrgy87

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    yeah agree with everything said on the saturn cases, although the pal version of streetfighter the move, the game(lol) did come in the US/SEGA CD style case

    the plastic clamshell saturn cases are solid and good to protect the games but they are annoying to open, my copies of Resident Evil, The House Of The Dead, Sega Touring Car championship, Deep Fear, Virtua Cop 2, Die Hard Arcade, are all plastic clamshell cases.

    the Fifa games came in better cases they were more like the MegaDrive clamshell cases i only have fifa 96 and 97, but both good cases, EA done that right at least

    i again agree about the dreamcast saturn and ps1 japanese cases, all better then the pal ones which were too fragile, although the pal DC cases i did like the look and feel of just too easily broken
     
  14. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    It's been a while since I've seen an actual Genesis box, but I own at least a few cardboard ones as well as a couple plastic ones. In my experience - and I could be wrong about this - the older Genesis games came in plastic cases whereas the newer ones came in the cardboard boxes. I think the shift was probably around 94/95. Also, all the American 32X games I've seen come in cardboard boxes.
     
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    Card glued to the case was really crap, let alone they didn't hold the CD in at all...
     
  16. Lum

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    Heck mine doesn't even have tabs to hold the booklet.
     
  17. brendand

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    perhaps its a tactic to try stop the used game market ??? i mean companies might be getting pissed off at losing alot of money in used games so they delibrately add no manual making the game worth less money ? sounds like a reasonable theory to me anyway
     
  18. HEX1GON

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    That would be the digital copy scheme.
     
  19. brendand

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    I have 3 genesis games with cardboard boxes Toy Story,Combat cars and Blockout :) not sure how many had the cardboard box
     
  20. Eviltaco64

    Eviltaco64 or your money back

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    I noticed that Microsoft began doing this in the US with the release of Modern Warfare 2, but apparently there were phases to cheapening everything:

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/12/01/game-companies-going-green-with-new-cases

    Like 'hope' and 'change', 'going green' was an incredibly over-used slogan in the late 2000s. All it did on a national scale was give companies the ability to gloat that they cut down on manufacturing costs to make more profit. Not to sound like a cranky old man (don't worry, I'll get there), but anything from water bottles, to glass, to packaging.. It's all a lot thinner now. It would be no problem if there was still a wider variety of products available, or if the money saved in cutting production costs was passed on to the consumer, but it wasn't.

    I'm all for being resourceful, practical, and economical. However, I don't think it will help "save the world" in any way. I think of Japan, who is possibly the most eco-cautious country in the world, being devastated by natural causes anyway. It's a shame, but the world will kick our asses whether we want it to or not. :p
     
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