Geist Force

Discussion in 'Rare and Obscure Gaming' started by StarWolf, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. StarWolf

    StarWolf Guest

    Geist Force (Now with loads of pictures!!)

    Does anyone know how far Geist Force was in development before it was canned, please?

    I may have the opportunity to purchase a GD-R of the game. But tbh, I'm not interested unless a decent amount of actual playable game exists.

    Any help/info is much appreciated.

    Edit: Wrong area. Sorry.
     
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  2. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    Buy it even if its just to sell it on! There is enough people here interested in this game for it to be worth it.
     
  3. Fabrizo

    Fabrizo Resolute Member

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    Agreed :nod:
     
  4. KaL_YoshiKa

    KaL_YoshiKa Commandent Lurker

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    Don't pass up a chance you'd later regret. Buy buy buy.
     
  5. StarWolf

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    Well tbh, I want to release the damn thing. I don't care what happens to the original GD-R, if someone would want it at at a reduced price. I'm more than happy with a CD-R of the game, and a replica/reproduction of the NTSC-J boxart that was posted a while back.

    Although, if I was to release this, I'd be nice for others to release a game or two. *cough*Take the Bullet*cough*

    Anyhow, I'm in talks with a 'middleman' at the moment. I'm really hoping this does go through.

    Oh, apparently it's a demo that was shown at E3. Anyone know of this demo, maybe seen/played it?
     
  6. Fabrizo

    Fabrizo Resolute Member

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    From everything i've read their was no playable demo for the game ever presented at E3 or TGS, it was only ever shown as video. Also, this is sort of odd:

    October 15, 1998 - Shown to an awe-stuck industry crowd prior to last May's Electronic Entertainment Expo, Geist Force was on display at the Tokyo Game Show in video-only form - and it's an almost entirely different game to the one we saw just five months ago.

    The Tokyo Game Show demo was allegedly nearly 80% complete, but is largely unpopulated by enemies and suffers from occasional slowdown. What's odd is that the version shown at E3 was packed with enemies, was smooth as silk and was bristling with all sorts of special effects not in this version.
     
  7. PrOfUnD Darkness

    PrOfUnD Darkness Familiar Face

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    Even not playable, I'm sure everybody want to see it :) Please, let us know how the deal is going :)
     
  8. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    There was a playable version at some show in Japan and I'm betting it was the 1998 TGS. They even showed a guy playing it in a Dreamcast kiosk at the show !! So the game was 100% playable !!

    I say BUY BUY BUY !!! If you don't then PLEASE let me know who is selling it. A few of the older members know that I've been after this game since the release of Dreamcast !! I even ordered a copy of it before it vanished.

    Yakumo
     
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  9. wombat

    wombat SEGA!

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    O-M-G !! if this works out.. then I'm SOOOOO happy... i'm dying to play geist force!

    note: If you manage to get the GDR and the rip goes succesfully then I'll release the official front cover. Then only the back needs to be photoshopped :D
     
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  10. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Is it the one with SAMPLE in the corner? If it is then I had that at one point :( What dpi is the iamge you have? I could make the back cover if needed.

    Yakumo
     
  11. wombat

    wombat SEGA!

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    I got the origional sample art, and if the time is there I will make an backcover as well.. heck I didnt study al that computer stuff for nothing ;)
     
  12. Szczepaniak

    Szczepaniak Robust Member

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    This may sound stupid... but anyone care to describe the game? Or point me in the direction of good reading material?
     
  13. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    It'sa 3d shooter, but not a rail shooter if I'm not mistaken.

    I'm sure many people here would help you bite the bullet, StarWolf.
     
  14. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    There's been some confusion, as Geist Force was indeed playable at the 1998 Tokyo Game Show! For the record, it was actually the original CS Team conversion of Sega Rally 2 for the Dreamcast that was shown only in (40% complete) video form. I've heard before that copies of Geist Force are in the hands of collectors, and regardless of what versions they have it would be great to see this game released as it remains one of the few higher profile Dreamcast cancellations that wasn't later resurrected on another platform...
     
  15. Perkunas

    Perkunas Intrepid Member

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    There are so many possible cancelled Dreamcast games that had playable builds, I would love to see Virtua Fighter 4 for example... Shenmue II had a limited edition release with two Virtua Fighter 4 discs (pastport/V.net and trailers/renders/... nothing was Dreamcast footage though).

    Curious about stuff like Jet Set Radio Future, Toejam & Earl III, Gunvalkery,... too.
     
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  16. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    I don't remember the exact source (though it could have been the UK official Dreamcast magazine), but Yu Suzuki once said that AM2 would only start work on a conversion of Virtua Fighter 4 after preliminary research proved that such a game would be possible without serious graphical compromise. Considering that the Dreamcast has significantly less memory and a lower theoretical maximum polygon count than the NAOMI 2 coin-op board, it's easy to see why development shifted to the PlayStation 2. If anything from a Dreamcast translation does exist, it's probably a scaled down port of the original arcade code or so early into production that it's not even worth bothering to look for. Anyway, haven't we all learned yet that AM2's unreleased games remain very tightly locked away? Unless they want us to see something, it's unlikely we'll ever get to. Sad, I know...
     
  17. StarWolf

    StarWolf Guest

    Well my contact got back to me. He got hold of the guy who actually has the GD-R. Unfortunately, it won't boot.

    I'm absolutely devastated, tbh. We were so close to having this, and it's all gone tits. I'm sorry if I got anyone's hopes up, but I needed to post here to find out whey I could have been getting. I have to say a big thanks to everyone for all the information you've provided, especially Anthaemia. At least we now know that the game is fairly (fully?) complete and properly playable. We also know that there are copies out there.....

    This has however, given me the kick-up-the-arse needed to resume the search for the lost DC protos. I've heared the names Chris Senn and Mike Wallis in conection with this game and also SonicXtreme. Would it be possible to get hold of these guys to see if they have a copy? But if anyone has any information or any potential leads to follow, please let me know.

    I'd been hunting this and Prop Arena since they were canned. If anyone could help with finding this I'd be so gratefull, I want us all to play this game. And I'd like to prove that it is possible to do a succesful release for the ASSEMbler community, following the cock-up that was PropArena.

    And a big thanks to Yakumo. Cheers mate.

    I'll post some pics of why we really should be actively hunting this down in a bit. It's bloody amazing. Gotta go see Missus first, she's not feeling too good. Praying she doesn't decide to go into labor right now......
     
  18. KaL_YoshiKa

    KaL_YoshiKa Commandent Lurker

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    Damn, nothing can be done then? maybe next time.
     
  19. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    In addition to having screenshots from the many prototypes that were shown off prior to the Dreamcast's launch, I also have a few direct feed images of the Geist Force build that was previewed during the 1998 Tokyo Game Show. Unfortunately, I'm currently without anywhere to put these - anybody prepared to lend me a bit of space or even tell me somewhere that I could possibly send them?

    Until now, I wasn't aware that both Chris Senn AND Mike Wallis were involved in the development of Geist Force. I'd read back in late '98 that it was being produced by Sega of America in collaboraton with General Entertainment Software, though could it actually be the work of STI (or whatever it the letftover members were called at that time)? Come to think of it, might Geist Force be the final name for the "Condor" project that Chris Senn has mentioned as being STI's follow-up plan to the aborted Sonic X-Treme?
     
  20. Mark30001

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    If you do however come across Dreamcast protos, I wouldn't rush in to get it. The "true" protos are found on the "blue Katana" type GD-R discs or on silver GD-Rs with no label, as I know of some people who have had access to a Dev Box & GD-Writer and duplicated their "protos" onto numerous "orange Dreamcast" GD-Rs (not trying to refer to a single person).

    That doesn't necessarily mean all Dreamcast protos on the orange GD-R discs are copies though; I'd just do a little more research though. ;-)
     
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