Since we have a thread specifically for rants and raves, I hope you guys don't mind me linking to my latest rant: God Damn I Hate Apple Enjoy!
Everything apple makes is slow and difficult to use? Sorry but youre confused, android tablets are no better when it comes to installing apps and at least with ipads you can jailbreak free and easy and its all the same general process. Also its not right to say "slow" or "difficult" unless you are a slow person, ipods are as simple as it gets, mac os is fast, and can be easier to learn for someone whos never used a computer before. With that said, ipads/tablets could never replace a real computer for me, or for a lot of other people, the whole "app for everything" thing just doesnt cut it, and I completely agree that the whole process of acquiring apps from specific sources (appstore/itunes, cydia) is BS.
Some of their stuff is good... some awful. Sounds like just everything else. Awful: iPhoto, iTunes Good: OSX based on Unix, Less bullshit you find on Windows
I like iTunes and iPhoto but perhaps because before I started using them I didn't really have an MP3 player or decent camera so they're in a sense what I started with. Before that I was using Minidisc with SonicStage and that was a pain in the ass with its check in and check out system. I'm so used to both of them now I don't think I could make the switch, also I can't find anything about either of them that I don't like. Yes the windows version of iTunes does suck. I guess FLAC support and AVI support would be nice, I spend too much time converting videos to MP4 format.
I just don't like paying upwards of $1500 for $800 worth of hardware simply because it has a big fat Apple logo on the case. I'm not lazy or ignorant enough to think it's worth my cash. Or hell, I've seen dual CPU PowerMacs with a lot more horsepower than your average PowerMac run for about $8k. After checking Newegg it ran about $2-3k but hey you gotta pay those case engineers and dudes in China to put it together for $0.30/hr right?
Now this is just my opinion, but I hate Apple for everything. One of the most closed and user restricting companies I've seen in a long while.
My 2006 macbook is still more powerful than any netbook/intel atom pc running windows on the market today. This is why I like macs and how I justify the higher prices, yes I have an old macintosh, but its still running strong and have no plans to replace it anytime soon. pcs are worthless within 3, maybe 4 years, plus, less reliable hardware. maybe its the same chips but its not just about the chips, its also about how those chips are put together and how they're used. And a powermac costing more than $500? powermacs were discontinued in 2005, they're old obsolete hardware replaced by intel macs, specifically by the mac pro. Anything more than $500 for a powerpc computer is a rippoff regardless of the upgrades.
Perhaps I just have terrible luck with Apple hardware. Every computer or laptop I've owned from Apple has had at least one major failure within the first year. Most commonly it's been optical drive failures, and logic board failures. Though with one of my macbooks in the past I had to have it repaired like 9 times in the first 6 months so that it would recognize that it had a battery, and then be able to actually charge it. What PCs may lack in reliability, desktops especially benefit from having standard easily replaceable parts, and are less expensive than their mac counterparts. For example the 21.5in iMac I own has had a logic board failure, optical drive failure, hard drive failure, and airport card failure in the last 13 months. For the amount that I paid for it I could have gotten a much more powerful PC, and been able to work on it myself as opposed to giving my primary computer to Apple for a week at a time to get it repaired.
damn... thats a pretty unfortunate experience... admittedly my macbook's dvd drive has gotten stuck about 2 times, but never an actual failure. always just opened i up and pulled the disc myself and was fine after that. Sorry for you, I can see how an experience like that would leave you with bad feelings against apple.
Couldn't agree more. Look at it like this: the real price is what you paid for it minus what you get when you sell it on after you're done with it. The resale value of Apple products is among the highest in the industry.
Why would you compare it to a netbook when it's a full scale laptop? Well no shit it's faster, Atoms are really slow CPUs designed purely for power efficiency.
Why people keep coming out with this closed and no customisation crap is beyond me. Buy a Mac Pro and you can fit it with pretty much any hardware you please. If there are no official drivers then there are plenty 3rd party ones available, made by the people who are likely to customise in the first place. I can program pretty much anything I want to for my Mac and modify the OS anyway I please. Like wise if you want to do the same for your iPhone you can. Granted certain tweaks may not make it through to the app store but this is due to something called quality control, making sure that the end user experience is at its absolute best. The philosophy of Apple is to make the experience of using a computer easy and enjoyable for the vast majority of users. We as hackers, experts and tinkerers do not fit in that category and so it's easy for us to judge Apple's decision when we forget that we do not account for 99% of the market. A cool menu and widgets + tethering might be childs play for us to mess about with but think of the average user and how much it could cause havoc for Apple. There are so many people I see out there with Samsung Galaxies and HTC who haven't got a clue how to use half of the stuff on their phone, but hand them an iPhone and they're winning within seconds. It reminds me of when I went to my Apple Retail interviews (which I didn't get through by the way) they were telling me about their training program for iPad specialists and what to do when confronted with a person who has never used a PC before never mind a tablet. They were instructed to simply say to the person...just touch the screen. And almost every time the person got it and more often than not walked out with an iPad. That is a fairly good achievement. Buy an Acer, Dell or HP and you are swamped with excess software with no consistency or obvious explanation as to what it is or what it does. A Mac, you really do just switch on and go and the whole "no more than 3 clicks to get anywhere" is something Microsoft really need to get a hold of. When I use windows now and again, digging through control panel for example is a fucking chore and a half. Put yourself in the shoes of a 70 year old who has just bought a dell. WTF is power management settings? Drivers? Install what to where? Windows wants to update .NET...what's that? I need Java? I have the choice of browsers? This webpage requires Active X and it may harm my computer? Your TCP/IP settings are incorrect? Dell update manager recommends a BIOS upgrade DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER!! The list is endless. As for the hardware being expensive, yes it is but it does last. Fair enough logic boards and screens fail from time to time but the failure rates are far lower than most other manufacturers. You get what you pay for. You can argue that an i3 in a Mac is no different to one in an HP and you'd be right, but take the lid off a Mac and look at the quality of the engineering and you know you've paid for good quality hardware. Add on top of that things like the MagSafe adapter (which has saved my laptop countless times - I have Shitzu's), sudden motion sensors, glass multitouch trackpads and you're getting a lot more for your money than you think. Also look at the price of Windows in comparison to OS X. Also factor in the price of Office compared to iWork and iLife, once you start factoring in the purchase cost of additional software (providing you actually buy it legally) then the price of that windows PC starts to rise somewhat. Don't even get me started on the fragmentation of Microsoft Editions across its entire software range, do I want premium basic, corporate, elite, professional, circus edition etc?? At the end of the day it all comes down to consumer choice. I'm pro Apple but I do miss the days when I could build a beast of a system and fuck around with it but these days with a busy and hectic lifestyle I just want something that works out of the box with few crashes, few errors, no bloated anti-virus software and no genuine advantage checking my every move. In this busy crazy world many people want the same and (this is where I agree with you) at the minute it comes at a price which many people can't afford, hopefully one day that will change. There is now a winning formula for Apple that is highlighted by the fact that 10 years ago, Macs were expensive and looked cool, but nobody wanted them. Today they are still expensive and still look cool the difference being however that now a lot of people who I chat to in everyday life want one, it has to be down to the software and it's taken the release of iOS for people to realise that there's simplicity in a computer.
newer apple product are built like crap my iPod touch in kinda broken, mi Toshiba gigabeat no my PowerBook G4 died, my thinkpad no my iMac died, my crappy compaq pc no my old iBook clamshell g3 is still kicking my old Performa 630 is still kicking my old PowerBook 140 is running like brand new Good apple product exist, but their are old as hell
You have to agree with me though when it could be said that there is another individual out there who has had the complete reverse experience to you. Personal experiences do not count for the masses. Some people are just unlucky and sadly they often take those experiences to the grave with them. My dad had three Dell XPS m1330's in one year. Every time Dell replaced one the next one would go with the same problem, a burnt out GFX chip. He's never trusted a Dell since but they're solidly built machines with very a very good customer service and warranty behind them.
Agree completely. I dislike Apple products because I find they are overpriced and just have no Bang:Buck ratio, Would I ever deny Apple make good products though? Not a chance. Apple 2 and the PowerMac G3 (Blue and White) are some of my favourite machines ever. Both beautiful and good bang to buck IMO. Dell were a company I had that Stigma about, then I figured it was just the cheapest stuff they have that breaks down and has crap warranty, now I wouldn't buy a Dell (aside from maybe the top tier laptops) but I like the machines.
kinda agree, as i would never buy a mac again i would neither buy a dell or an hp /compaq, my dad has a dell, almost new and has it's trouble, my compaq (didn't buy it, was free) has a dying logic board (bulged capacitors) i had always excelent results with ibm/lenovo, i learn everything i know about computer with a pentium 3 Netvista, is still running and faster than newer machines (don't ask how) my laptop is an old thinkpad p4 runing debian, my brother has another p4 thinkpad with windows but ibm were even more expensive than macs, now lenovo are cheaper but still are really tough machines
