Gta San Andreas debug/beta version XBOX

Since when? Data is data. What if it was never on a dev kit? That doesn't make sense. So long as its not copies being sold, and the person is allowed to do with it what they please, its no different than anything else.

 

1)Group buy of devkit
2)Group release of devkit
3)Group sell of devkit
4)Group splitting of devkit proceeds

 

I agree with Kev on this.

 

Uhh when you take it from the hard drive you are copying the data. You can't make duplicates of preview/beta discs either and sell them.

 

And what if it was never on a debug kit? Can you not sell that if you don't have the original harddrive and PC that it was on? It's no different than selling any other build of a game. So long as the person who sells it deletes it, and doesn't leak or share it after it's sold, there really is no difference.

 

Right, there is a difference between selling copies and copies, and selling one (that, mind you, could have been a copy in the first place). Ive bought generic CD-rs with unreleased games, does that not count anymore? Things are more complicated now and not nearly so black and white, games coming from HDDs are a real possibility (and something Ive dealt with personally). It's your place and your rules, obviously, but in the end you are just limiting the possibilities.

 

Would love to play the SA beta.

 

Like Geist Force?

 

I mean I guess if that's how you feel fine, It is now going to cost even more money. 600 dollars with the kit will now be the price. No flexibility.

 

i think he was pointing out that you have already sold and distributed 1 game (or game data if you prefer) that you acquired, why is this one any different?
seems to be a 1 rule for some and another rule for the rest around here (lately?)

 

Some games are never on DVD/CD for XBOX. Usually it's all transferred through ethernet. Besides, selling it data only with a huge price tag is crap. $400 with the kit is the fair price.
Debug Kits with no content are AU$250. Yes I know this isn't part of the rules to say so, but right now it's probably better for a donation as it's just data anyway. $600 is a very, very high price for something that's kinda non-existent. Also if you're selling data only, no need to picture the kit. -_-

I know some of you are saying or comparing this to Geist Force. Remember Geist Force was planned and kinda everyone knew about how it was being released. If not, Kev released a torrent. Technically it has been sold over and over, but it was at the same time.

Anyway, good luck with the sale - since there is no flexibility I doubt it ever will. Donations, then a release will work, like many have said.

 

Well as long as it isn't a legal matter shouldn't it just be up to the buyers and sellers discretion about the terms of sale?

 

I don't see how selling it WITH the kit is any different than selling it without a kit... as long as the data is sold ONCE and once only.

I have 20 kits, 19 have blank HDDs and 1 has a full debug copy of Kameo on. I copy the data to the other 19 kits which could quite easily have happened during testing (it's not uncommon to have the same build on many kits from the same developer). I now have 20 kits with builds... where do we go from here?!

 

Delete the other builds you copied?

 

lol its more about providence, how do you prove that the data wasnt already on the other dev kits? this is where it becomes a grey area

if the data has only ever been found on a dev kit then its data only, no disc was produced, this is why our current laws struggle with data only when theirs nothing physical, how to you put a price on something that doesnt physically exist? i dont think $400 is too much for data, i have paid a couple of hundred dollars for beta games that were data only, since it was the only way i could get hold of it i was willing to pay

 

I know what Kiff was saying, I was kidding

Couple of hundred is $200, he's asking $600 now, which was my point of being too much.