Has anyone actually seen an ED64 Plus in action? My unfortunate experiance with one.

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  1. BooBoo02

    BooBoo02 Active Member

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    Hi Guys,
    I made the mistake of purchasing an ED64 Plus thinking that it was one of KRIKzz's new EverDrive cards because the site i got it from also sells the other EverDrive cards as well. It was a quick impulse buy as soon as i saw it listed with the price of $99. It wasn't till later that i began searching the internet for reviews or any other info that i could find about it and began reading that it was a clone, or cheap copy of the EverDrive. Anyway many days passed and all i saw was the same one video and no reviews what so ever apart from the many posts about how cheap the build quality was and how the software that runs on the card was was stolen. It was at this point of time that i didnt hold much hope in this card working after i would receive it, and on the day i got it, it came to no surprise when i finally plugged it into my N64 only to have a blank screen appear. Now i am no stranger to devices like this and everything was prepared as stated in the instructions but still it would not work no matter what i tried.

    At first i thought, no drama as i would just request a refund from the site i got it from and all will be good. I sent an email stating that the card would not work. A few days had passed and i got no reply untill i wrote a review (which was not posted of coarse) about my experience on the site i purchased it from. I was told that all ED64 cards are tested from the factory so they are shiped without further testing. He said that he will test a card himself to see if they are ok. Meanwhile i also post my experience on one of the youtube videos (there were 3 identical videos at the time) with the most responses, most of which were all negative. That video has now been removed, and guess what. Still no response about the Ed64 plus being tested. It takes a couple of minute to test the card, but its been days without a reply.

    Meanwhile still no new videos, no reviews and further more, the few news sites that have reported on the ED64 Plus, they have not posted my review/experience. Has anybody actually got a working ED64 Plus?? are there any reviews from people who have working cards?? Are there any other videos of this Card in action??? I still have my V64Jr in the meantime but i am looking to purchase an original Ever Drive once my funds are returned. My next step is to see if i can get a refund via Paypal.
     
  2. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    I would just give up on getting any more info on the cart. KRIKzz himself got one and was appalled at what he found when examining it. These things take the cheapness of quality to the next level hence all the failures. And the fact that communication is non existent shows it to be a shady operation at best. I would just let it go, try to get your money back, and go for the real deal. You'll be happier in the end for it. I know having the real ED64. Sorry for following the pessimist crowd but this is the truth. I've seen reviews of it before they were removed. Every aspect of the cart just plain sucks. Even the stolen OS is a shitty clone at best.
     
  3. sanni

    sanni Intrepid Member

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    What game cart did you plug into the top of the ED64 Plus?
     
  4. BooBoo02

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    I tried San Francisco Rush as it has the right cic 6102. I also tried a few other non 6102 carts but everything i tried would not work. Their web site does say "[FONT=&quot]Supports all games of the region corresponding to the console (PAL system need to order PAL version ED64Plus)"[/FONT] Is this right?? Maybe i have an NTSC ED64 Plus??
     
  5. C-Kronos

    C-Kronos Intrepid Member

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    Honestly man, I know you made a mistake, but how could you not tell something was shady from the label on the cart of the "ED64" Plus, and the requirement of piggy backing a cartridge? I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but impulsive or not, you made an incredibly stupid choice, and I'll be surprised if you get your money back at all.

    Also, it's not "maybe you have an NTSC ED64 PLUS" because the region of the cart depends on the CIC lockout chip being used, and the way this cheap knockoff works is utilizing the CIC chip from piggy backing a real cartridge on it. You should just let it go and accept that you messed up, try to get your money back, but I wouldn't get your hopes high on that end. Go for the real deal and do research before buying something on impulse because of the price, because if something looks too good to be true, it usually isn't true.

    If you're in the US, and you want to buy an ED64 v2, order it from Stoneagegamer if they have it in stock, and if they don't, wait until they do... There's also the 64drive if you want to check that out, but that product is more focused towards the developer demographic, but it can do everything the ED64 v2 does, and you can use a 6105 CIC and not be troubled with the compatibility issues with 6103 CIC games like the ED64 v2 has when using a 6105 CIC; at least, until krikzz gets around to fixing this issue, but he's known about it for awhile, so I don't know if he will.
     
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  6. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Do a chargeback with your credit card or bank.
     
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    derekb Well Known Member

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    haven't seen much in terms of a review beyond that same one video, KRIKzz did mention that the one he purchased for inspection actually had a surface part that flat out fell off the board
     
  8. BooBoo02

    BooBoo02 Active Member

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    Nah your not mean, your just speaking the truth. I'll try and get a refund via Paypal but if that doesnt happen then i am not that fussed as i am over worrying about this piece of crap i purchased. I still have my V64 doctor which is damn fine at playing everything i throw at it. The only pain is having to use a computer and transferring the roms the old way. I am in Australia but i may order a Ever Drive from Stoneagegamer as he looks a trusty source to purchase from.
     
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    I just opened my ED64 Plus and noticed that a whole chip is missing from the board. I am comparing it with the picture that KRIKzz posted in another thread and my board has one less chip on it. No wonder it dont work.
     
  10. APE

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    Chinese QA is far from NASA levels of QA but that is pretty bad.

    Unless it was intentional.
     
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    BooBoo02 Active Member

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    The 16 pinned chip that sits below the square Altera cyclone II chip is not there, only the holes were it is meant to go are on the board. Someone was smoking something when this crap was put together. I am going to try get a refund for sure now.
     
  12. saturnu

    saturnu Spirited Member

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    i think you have the option to put carts on top or to solder a cic onto the pcb.
    but i think it's a good idea to buy a real everdrive. the support is great, krikzz really cares about his customers.
    it's no big heartless company and the money helps to 'invent' new everdrives.

    greetings, saturnu
     
  13. APE

    APE Site Supporter 2015

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    Again, just because a part is missing doesn't mean it wasn't intentional and it won't function without it. Without knowing what the IC is I can't say.

    EDIT: and after checking that is the solder pads for a CIC. It can be missing and function just fine if you place a cartridge on top. While I'm sure the QA is low but this won't get you a refund (on its own) by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    The fact it doesnt work is enough grounds for a refund. The buyer is not expected to diagnose WHY its not working to get a refund.
     
  15. APE

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    Right. But to claim the CIC missing is grounds on its own merit is false.

    Much like claiming that someone selling you a car lacking any fuel in the tank is grounds for calling it a lemon. Actuality is that the engine is blown.
     
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  16. reprep

    reprep Gutsy Member

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    Just buy an everdrive 64 when you get your refund. Krikzz always values his customers.
     
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    saturnu Spirited Member

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    You are right but at first he doesn't know that this is the place for the cic. He thought of a factory failure. ^^
     
  18. sanni

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    Did you put the menu on the sd card?
     
  19. BooBoo02

    BooBoo02 Active Member

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    Yep thats true. The fact that i am such a noob to the internals of these cards does not help. Didnt even know that was the cic chip. In saying that though, as already stated by Bad_Ad84 "The fact it doesnt work is enough grounds for a refund. The buyer is not expected to diagnose WHY its not working to get a refund"

    BTW, why does the ED64 Plus Krikzz received have the cic chip on the card?
     
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    BooBoo02 Active Member

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    Yes i did. The N64 will also detect the Ed64 Plus with game plugged in the top without the software/sdcard (it tells you to install the software), but with my ED64 Plus, that does not happen. I just get a blank screen.
     
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