HDTVs and 4:3 border burn-in

But if the middle is what is "burned in" then why does it look perfectly normal but the two sides are much darker by comparison? I always thought the screen darkens up a bit with use over time, so why would the part that is used the least be darker than the part that is used the most?

And I'm not sure I understand the difference.

1.
- Stationary image (let's say news logo) on screen for prolonged periods of time.
- Damages screen by having a ghost of the image (logo) appear even when it's not supposed to be.
- Called burn-in.

2.
- Stationary image (black bars from 4:3 viewing) on screen for prolonged periods of time.
- Damages screen by having a ghost of the image (solid black bars) appear even when it's not supposed to be (thus darkening the sides of the screen).
- Not called burn-in?

What exactly is the difference?

 

Because it's the middle part got burn-in, not borders. Nothing can get burn-in when it's turned off, so there's no darkening, it's middle part of the screen that gives washed out picture. If you'll use bright 16:9 pictures for same amount of time whole screen will fade and it will be a bit harder to notice, that's all. Which means that TV got shitty panel.
My father watched whole Star Trek series (TOS-ENT) on plasma TV, also older movies and shows are always 4:3/14:9 - nothing happened and that TV is more than 5 years old.

 

I've got a 32" Sony Trinitron with component but it doesn't do anything beyond 480i.

This thread makes me reconsider what I was contemplating purchasing.

 

It wasn't turned off, that was the problem. The sides of the screen were always on, the image on the sides was a constant solid black, that's why I'm saying that part of the screen was damaged.

It seems good HDTVs (like Yakumo's) have the ability to turn off the sides of the screen when watching 4:3 content. Mine didn't, and since it probably had a cheap panel to begin with, it got damaged rather quickly.

 

Wouldn't turning off the sides of the screen damage it in the long run anyway? Since the panel naturally fades over time surely wearing in the center but not the sides would cause the display to wear unevenly?

 

Its called regional back lighting as LCD tvs can't display black.

Also his TV isn't good, its just not crap. Which are different things

 

If LCD panel gets any kind of burn-in or massive dead pixel issues - it's a piece of junk. A lot of my friends watch older TV shows/movies in 4:3 format or playing older consoles - never heard anything about burn-in from them, except some issues with older plasma panels.

 

Hypothetically speaking, if I buy a nice LED HDTV and want to watch a fuck-ton of 4:3 content for hours on end, I have nothing to worry about, correct? That's my main concern. I don't intend to use a lot of non-widescreen content but it'd be nice to know I can if I want to. Having my HDTV get ruined like that has made me a bit paranoid about the issue occurring again on future HDTVs.

 

Pretty much. I'm considering investing in a Sony PVM because they seems to be among the best CRT monitors for retro gaming. I love my 28" flat screen but it's far too big and weighs around 75kg, the picture quality is amazingly crisp but it's not exactly portable. If anything I'd get one for a friend because they love retro stuff but can never find space for a big wide screen CRT in their living room, and truly decent portables are hard to come by. So much retro potential not getting enjoyed because of poor compatibility on modern screens. Those professional PVM monitors look like some of the best for their era, it would be nice to have something like that dedicated to a retro setup.

 

All I can say is don't buy anything with a cheap ass panel and you'll be OK. 2 years of EVERY DAY 4:3 gaming or DVDs yet my TV is 100% fine. As for it being a poor TV, well that's rubbish. This model was never released outside of Japan so no western review site has ever reviewed it. The only poor thing about the TV I use is it's slow "lock on" to a signal. For example, I've never seen the full boot up on my 360 because the TV takes 2 seconds to scan and accept the signal. That's the only poor point about it.

As mentioned in another post, companies uses different panels for the TVs depending on the Eco system they are being sold in. US TVs will always have the worst panels (for a 1st world country) because people in the US always want stuff for next to nothing. You get what you pay for. UK sets cost more than the same model in the US so it stands to reason the company would use better parts. Japanese prices are a lot higher than anywhere in the west which again reflex in the parts used.

You could always import a TV from Japan or Korea but shipping costs would kill that idea dead. So either you need to spend a hell of a lot on a high end TV and I'm not talking about one with Smart TV shit or 3D but one with a real quality panel that will come with at least a 3 year guarantee out of the box. Or get a quality arcade monitor or broadcast monitor.

 

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Pan...-P65VT65B-3D-Plasma-TV-Review_507/Review.html

If you want the best tv, buy that (or the larger sized one. But VT60/65 is the way to go)

 

someone said toshiba makes rock solid LCDs Lol. no. When I worked in Home Theater we got more toshiba's to be serviced than anything.

anyway if it's recent tv don't worry about it unless you JUST use it for 4:3 if you switch between different aspect ratios nothing will happen.

If you have a LCD it won't happen at all - it used to be common on Plasmas and rarely on CRTs.

 

The discussion about brand quality doesn't make sense when companies have different standards for each market.

Some examples:

Sharp TVs in Brazil have mostly models that aren't available anywhere else in the world. Only the big screen TV's are real Sharp models. It's seems that all 32 and 40 TVs are just AOC models with Sharp logos.

Toshiba in Brazil is made with a joint venture with SEMP. SEMP branded TV's used to be the cheaper models, while Toshiba branded were more expensive. Nowadays, SEMP logos are only on the couple of small CRTs they still manufacture, STi are the regular LCD, LED models and Toshiba are the high end big TV's.

What i'm trying to say is that i can't compare the Sharp and Toshiba TV's sold here when the company operations are totally different from Japan. When Yakumo says his Toshiba TV is great, i can't really compare with the same products sold here.

 

Perfectly put, Johnny. I wouldn't be surprised if the Samsung TVs sold in Korea are better made than those sold in Japan. They have to sell really cheap here because of the tough competition and that Japanese don't like Korean branded electronics. I've heard many bad stories about Samsung TVs in Japan but people in the west normally only have great things to say.