Is my PS2 is being picky?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Yakumo, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Same here, have the box and everything, I think it's a 70002 model not sure, and not sure if the number is correct. It did have a built in IR receiver though.
     
  2. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Yeah, it seems the laser is the issue. I've cleaned bot the top and bottom laser and still ghet the same results. Looks like I'll have to buy another PS2. Major bummer. I'm going to see what pops up on Yahoo Auctions. I need to ask the seller if it will play DVD based games. I really want to play Initial D. I have thought aout USB loading games but I best the games I want to play won't run:p
     
  3. sp193

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    Why not just pick up a network adaptor and get it installed? The laser of the new console will eventually die too.

    USB game loading isn't too bad. If OPL can't run it, try PS2ESDL. Compatibility is about the same as SMB.
     
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    Nice game. I was just reminiscing with my college buddies about when we used to stay up all night to play that game!
     
  5. MottZilla

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    HDLoader works great with a large amount of games. That's how I used to play most of my games in the PS2 era. Some don't work but it's worth a shot if you have the network adapter and IDE HDD. Though you may need some other things to get started using it. Pretty sure you can load games via network connection if needed.
     
  6. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Guess what guys, I also picked up a PS2 Slim and yep, it also doesn't fucking work. Sony and their amazing detail to shit lasers. This one will play DVD games but keep stuttering on the video playback and then decide not to bother loading the game after 5 minutes of play time. AGH!!! Fuck it, I'm going to buy one of those PSX systems. Surly they'd have better quality parts in them.

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  7. Mack

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    Did you try another game or the same one?
     
  8. MottZilla

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    They are old, maybe some maintenance is needed. Maybe the lens needs attention or the moving parts?
     
  9. Mack

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    Honestly I have never had a PS2 with a shitty lens , especially 2 in a row. It's obvious Yakumo's game is not working or something.
     
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  10. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    You're having bad luck Yak, I guess you're better off going down the HDloader route than buying a PSX.
     
  11. sp193

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    A PSX has similar hardware as the retail consoles, but it's worse there because the console stops working when the HDD unit dies (currently irreplaceable) and the main laser is difficult to replace (That KWS laser).

    But if you're currently in Japan, isn't it possible to get 2nd hand console for cheap? At least it's not like in here where a second-hand unit costs far more than just 500 yen or so...

    Also, have you tried another game? Maybe your game disc has gone bad, although that doesn't seem likely.

    If it's really the console, then you're just unfortunate to have gotten a dud. :/
    (Or maybe it's true that the SCPH-90000 series is crap, since you have one)
     
  12. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I think there are still places that sell new PS2s. Amazon.com has them, so Amazon.co.jp probably has them too. I think they're no longer being manufactured by Sony, but the suppliers haven't run out of stock yet. That's probably your best bet. Another option is to buy from someone you trust, and make sure the system is working first.

    Another option is to buy a BC PS3, although those have issues too, and they're a bit more expensive. Still probably cheaper than a PSX, though.

    Initial D Special Stage (I assume that's the one you're trying to play) is a pretty good game. Graphics and gameplay-wise it's pretty close to the arcade. I never got too far into it though, since there's a bit of a language barrier to the mission mode. I'm sure that's not an issue for you, though.
     
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  13. Yakumo

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    I tried 3 DVD games and they all suffered from the same problem :( But finally after talking to a guy in the local Hard Off he told me that Sony knows some of it's machines have issues and even compiled a list of problem models and games that don't work on them! WTF! They make the same console but each version has issues with different games?!? Nuts! Anyway, the list states that anything below the SCPH-50000 should work all games but since these are now old most of them have bad lasers. Anything after the 50000 series is where it all gets stupid. Each system after that has issues with some games. No model after SCPH-50000 will work with all PS2 games. So I was left to judge what games on the list didn't I care about and which PS2 to go for. Of course to play everything a console before the 50000 series is the obvious choice but as mentioned, these are old and many have bad lasers. So a newer model it was. I ended up with the SCPH-77000 model. It still won't play all games but out of the 30 odd games it won't play, none of them are games I'd buy anyway.

    A big thanks to the guy at Hard Off for teaching me about Sony's crazy console manufacturing and guiding me to the right system for the game I want. Finally I can play in peace.

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  14. sayin999

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    My Japanese ps2 had an issue reading ps1 discs tried cleaning the laser but didn't work, however when I got a can of air and aimed at area between laser it's worked prefect since. There's a video guide by lukemorse that shows how dust often gets built up in a part of the laser that reflects it to the disc. Of course this is on phat ps2, slim there another story. My US ps2 slim has a slight warped area on the top cover so I got force it down so the plastic will touch the switch to tell it's closed!
     
  15. Yakumo

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    I've had over 5 shitty lasers on PlayStation 1 cosoles, 2 dead Sony CD players, again laser issues. Go only knows how many dead Mega Cd uints which use, yep, you guessed it, Sony Lasers. I've never had a dead laser on a Saturn or Dreamcast. Either I'm the most unlucky person out there when it comes to buying Sony products with lasers or they're just not that good.
     
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  16. TriMesh

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    I assume it still can't play the 360 version of onechanbara, though?
     
  17. sp193

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    They've been changing so much in every major series, so it's probably not surprising if one or two games stop working every now and then. Not only did the laser get changed (From the Sony KHS models to the Sanyo ones, and back and forth between them), they did redesign the majority of the console several times.

    But I still think that it's your game discs that have some problem because the laser should be fine if most other DVD games work fine on the console, especially if the game works on the same console when loaded from some other media like the HDD unit (e.g. through HDLoader).

    On the family XBOX360 console here, I had and still have a few game discs that won't work on the slimline console that we originally had. The shop didn't want to exchange the Call of Duty: Black OPs disc for us because the disc worked fine on the fat XBOX360 there (in fact, the same disc worked fine on all the fat consoles that my friends had).

    Even after asking Microsoft for an exchange, the replacement console was unable to play the problematic game discs properly. In fact, the problem worsened, probably because this console has a different optical drive that isn't as tolerant to poorly-made media.
     
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  18. Riki

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    Dreamcasts with dead laser is pretty common. And Saturn had revisions with incompatible games.
     
  19. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    All I know is that my game discs are all fine because they work in this 77000 model. So it was the consoles that were at fault. As for the Saturn, only 3 games don't work. Quite a lot less than the 50 plus list I was shown today.

    I'm happy now. I can finally play my Sega 3D Ages games and Initial D without any problems.

    Thanks for all the input guys.

    Nope. I thought it would but I guess I was wrong. Just as well I have a 360 :)
     
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  20. la-li-lu-le-lo

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    I've had 2 Saturns with faulty lasers/drives. One of them was, admittedly, due to misuse on my part. SaturnHST just sold me a replacement for that system and now it's working fine. The other one was faulty when I got it. It was somewhat useable at first, but over time it got worse until it was basically unusable. I ended up replacing that drive with one from another system. I believe different revisions used drives made by different manufacturers, but I think most of them were made by either Hitachi or Victor.
     
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