Lamprey board

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  1. LEo

    LEo Fiery Member

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    No chance, I just explained in what scenario that document would work.

    Again, Agile was an external MS contractor that probably made their devkits, they got retail boards assembled in a factory that were still not programmed, then proceeded to make the changes in h/w (as described in the doc) necessary to make them devkits. Then program them using a lamprey. Yes this is rare hardware, and it pretty much only is a serial converter, but its an intresting insight. Lamprey related software is probably the rarest.
     
  2. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    Perhaps that because the software would be the real security hazard here, no ? :nod:
     
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    This is the full lamprey setup. It will not shoot gold nuggets out your arse!
    Full_Lamprey.jpg
    Without the addon boards NAND flashing will only work on what I call engineering prototypes and some early devs. Lamprey alone will only provide Kernel debug on Non retail kits. Certainly not worth $1100 .

    Alittle 360 hacking history - It was used to reverse engineer the 360 SPI so any device that has that capability can do the samething.
     
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    Thanks for the picture + the anecdote :encouragement:. Shame about the gold nuggets though.
     
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    Any higher res pics?

    -adrianc
     
  8. LEo

    LEo Fiery Member

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    Is that seriously a MS borad? the addon
     
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    Going by memory, I believe Argon used software from the chip manufacturer while NAND stuff was done using a MS app.

    Yes and No
    I enhanced a picture of Nick Baker(Copy in Xbox 360 Uncloaked) to identify the board MS used, then I contacted the manufacturer and simply ordered one. A boolean search located the software on an open networked computer.

    Unless, you are a serious collector there are tons of devices on the market that do the same thing.

    S22
     
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    Better yet here's the picture.

    Nicks_Goodies.jpg

    For bonus points, What goodies does Nick have on his desk?
     
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    Here's a clue.
    360historytimeline.jpg

    Covers up to July 2006.

    P.S. JC of Sherwood Forest - Are you manufacturing Lamprey Boards in China?
     
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  15. sneakypeanut

    sneakypeanut Pika CHUUUUUU!!!

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    Im more curious about that xenon 012 board...
     
  16. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Still want one of the Apple kits.
     
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    Thanks for the pictures and the info Speedy22!!! :encouragement:
     
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    Do a vector analysis of the mobo on his desk, I think you'll find it more interesting.

    The Lamprey was mainly used for Kernel debug and xdk recovery.
    Since doing a full NAND recovery would take >5hr(I think it was closer to 8hrs) using a lamprey/addon combo, MS uses a "mini bin" image that takes alot less time to flash. Once flashed the xdk is updated using standard recovery methods.
    Mini bins were around 3 meg.

    Again this can be accomplished using available HW and SW already developed.

    Cost to manufacturer a copy lamprey board is <$10 USD so top retail should be <$20 USD and that will only get you kernel debug.

    @@@@@LOOK!!!!!!@@@BUY_RIGHT_NOW_SAVE@@@UNBELIEVABLE@@@@LAMPREY for less then $3 USD including shipping!!!@@@@@@

    Here you go, lamprey for less then $3 and it's USB to boot. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-UART...C_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item564571ffb4

    3USD_LAMPREY.jpg
    Anything simular will work.
    360 header J2B1 or J2C3
    Connect $3 lamprey gnd to 360 header pin 12
    Connect $3 lamprey TXD to 360 header pin 1
    Connect $3 lamprey RXD to 360 header pin 2

    Set the baud rate to 115200, 8N1
    Launch Windbg (look on the net for installation instructions)
    Power up your 360 Dev and you're kernel debugging.

    S22
     
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    There are tons of products on the market that read and write the NAND using SPI and the software tools are readily available.
    These tools have more features then the native MS ones.

    As for Argon, Krypton and Radon programming, what is your goal?

    S22
     
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