Lost my job today....

Sorry to hear that man. I never knew a company will sack someone using internet. I mean they should be flexible even if u use it for own use.

 

harsh man, sounds like a shitty company if theyd sack you on such a bullshit charge tho :evil:

heres hoping something good comes off it mate!

 

You realise there's no escape, right? Even if you do manage to quit, the chip is still in the back of your head- ready to be reactivated at a moment's notice. You don't leave the agency...

 

It sucks when it happens dude but could be the next step to better and more rewarding job.
Take a walk to there rivals and have a word you could strike it lucky, hopefully you still have all your sales contacts....

Oh job wise worst comes to it the Royal Mail always need stuff at Xmas.

 

Sounds sortof familiar I was *almost* kicked out of an internship for being on internet too much. Didnt think it was much of a problem using internet seeing as all the employees were checking ebay and hotmail all day long and i was using it to look up code examples, since the dude that was supposed to answer my questions was too "busy" all day long. They never complained to me directly either, i got word of it through the informal channels at my college.

Ah well, its a good way to get to know the companies you never want anything to do with again for the rest if your life!

 

You know, I got fired from the Japanese school last year for being "redundant" - you know, for them having no use for a Japanese-Spanish translator and an expert computer user, or a publicist and designer.

The person who decided to fire me:
1. Has no Japanese knowledge whatsoever
2. Has no public relations knowledge whatsoever.
3. Has no computer skills whatsoever.
4. Spends her time at the office on Messenger.
5. Used to pay me 22 days late because "I was a rich kid since I came from a private university"
6. Thought she was french
7. Was a complete and absolute cunt.


.... and here I am, one year and two months later, earning at least ten times what I was earning over there, and while I miss the Japanese school, I really like teaching high school.

In other words - I know it sucks to get fired, but sometimes harsh things lead to awesome things. I hope this is such a case for you.

I almost know it is.

 

And when they realise others can't pick up the slack from your absence, exspect them to come back kissing your ass (at least that tends to happen a bit over here).

Truthfuly I am always worried I will be warned or sacked for my inet usage at work but at the same time when it comes down to work and deadlines, i'm usualy always on time and do overtime when nessisary. At the same time, i'm not a smoker so I rarely go off on breaks away from my pc. My inet browsing spirts all though out the day are my breaks.

 

You have to make pretty serious dough to be involved in a non-compete clause. It's the kind of job where you won't get fired for looking at non-work related internet for 5 minutes a day.

 

Fuck! did you at least bitchslap her?:lol:

Anyway, is like that Tshirt I saw the other day: "Mean people succeed"

 

too be honest, that is a perfect description of me also.. I know i used it and openly admitted to it when asked directly but thought that becuase i worked hard, was mostly on time, rarely off sick, brought in a good income for the company and had good relations with the clients, dont smoek so minimal breaksif any and often worked above and beyond my required duties that it as a bit of a two way situation.. and for along time, when the company was making lots of money they always appeared that they were like that but as soon as they start to lose income due to a drop in interest in the market and the fact that there are now a fair number of competitors etc they have decided to reprimand their staff and blame thm rahter then try to motivate and help satff to increase the turnover.

ATEOTD.. i could fight it, i may win, i may not, but it wil cost and to be honest i dont know i f can be arsed! lol..

its their loss and the will start to feel the pinch shortly when ther remainder of their workforce start handing in their own resiginations and they start to feel the pinch..

and when that ship sinks i will be standing at the sidelines waving gleefully! :nod: :dance:

 

Well, I'm glad you seem to be in better spirits about this. And as just about everyone else has said, better things await you.

If I were you, I would have just been happy to have a job at all. I graduated last December with an MBA. Plus I have a bachelor's degree in computer information systems. I am having the darndest time finding a job and I don't know what my problem is.

Anyway, a little off tangent, I know, but I'm kind of at that point where I'll almost take anything. I guess my point is that at least you had a job and were good at it, which I'm sure you were thankful for...

*edit - I still find ridiculous the manner in which you were fired. Some companies don't really understand it when their employees try to do small things to stay sane while on the job ie. take a break, read the web, chit-chat, etc. Which makes this even more repulsive considering its not like you were on the internet all day not doing any work.

 

a degree isn't a guarantee to finding a job or even being succesful, it's a mere tool, and a small one at that.

This comes from the mouth of someone who finished his LLB this year btw.

 

I can agree with you on that one, especially given my current situation. And I knew from the get-go it would not be a guarantee to finding a job, because nothing really is. You can have a phd, certificates and all the experience in the world, but it doesn't guarantee anything. One thing though that I believe in, is that pursuing further education can't do anything but help your chances of landing a better job, if not now, then in the future...well, that's at least what I'm telling myself...

 

A degree gets you in the door... and very little else. The only time I've heard of one being an issue after you've gained experience is when visa issues come into play.

 

Degrees nowadays do get your foot in the door, true.

Connections are still the best bet when it comes to doing business or securing a position. Socialize people, and make powerful friends, that is the key to success.

Most world millionaires made their fortune by working hard, running, risking and ultimately knowing the right people. Aim high, aim big, and do it in a shaddy way

 

I don't know. I'm not gonna say that's not the case sometimes. But I've heard of times where once you do get your foot in the door, its the education that will eventually land you a higher ranking position. This is why while taking classes for my MBA, most of the students were getting their degree to further their careers, many of whom would later receive promotions once they completed their schooling. Also, many of the employers paid for their classes, even books.

So, I don't know. As I said, there probably are cases where employers don't recognize the value of a good education, but there are also instances where they do.

 

A degree is often means more in the future rather than just as a foot in the door. There are plenty of glass ceilings in corporate America at least, and I'm sure the majority of the rest of the world is the same. Without the qualifications you'll get passed over for someone that has them more often than not.

When you have a family to feed, it's not a simple case of trying hard and starting your own business. You need money fast and some job security. I feel for you Fester, I hope it works itself out.

 

Welcome to the club...

Funny you mention that since in the same situation but without a degree most people will tell you "well you should've gone to college" as a way to explain the source of all your problems.

There isnt a manual for life, thats all I can say...

 

Yep. A degree is simply a tool. People who bitch about being getting a degree and wondering why they are not in a job or making tons of money should not have gone into college in the first place.

Depending on the person, a degree can go a very long way.

 

well a degree is an indirect investment.

you can use the same amount of cash you'd spend for living away and for college and invest it in something (stocks or even better, property) and make guaranteed money faster, as a direct investment.

Money brings more money.

My advice to everyone who's going to go to college is:

Don't just read your books to get a grade. Learn the know-how and its actual application even if you don't care for the grades, or even if you drop out. The whole point of uni is to organize your thoughts, teach you how to pump knowledge and be disciplined - the subjects are just placeholders with some relevant depth for the most part.


All said and done though, I m actually interested in an MBA later on perhaps - for benefitting personally more than the actual label of having an MBA. I think resource managment is essential for people who aspire to start their own business someday, such as myself hopefully.