new way of playing backups on sega saturn without a modchip?

The first HDAdvance/HDLoader Disc used the Crazy Taxi ELF.
If you had Crazy Taxi retail and downloaded HDA/HDL ISO you could performer a swap trick to load HDA/HDL.
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i dont mean cut the actual disk. i mean cut the outer part of the burned disk.
well ill just buy a modchip. i heard the model 2 saturn can giv u some issues when installing a modchip in it. is that true?

 

Not rare at all
http://allegro.pl/listing.php/search?string=crazy+taxi&category=82396

 

I don't think the Action Replays looking similar to games like Crazy Taxi (I've also heard of NHL Hitz, perhaps for the GameCube version) is just for another reason, not something horribly crazy like disc cutting.

 

Ive never seen proof of this being done, in all the years that people have said that it is possible.

 

For Crazy Taxi is just a hacked version on a Press Disc. They never cut anything.

 

Demo discs. Wasn't Christmast NiGHTS also put out for free?

Not say anyone would destroy the latter, just that it was free and cost effective to do, say, Radiant Silvergun or Panzer Dragoon Saga.

 

Back then RS wasn't charged a million dollars for though. It was the same price as any other game. Also, if you were trying to sell some weird looking disc that had been fused together that would be a problem as it certainly wouldn't look authentic.

 

That sounds like the silver pre production promo discs that Saturn developers used to give out, I could see why someone would think its a HK Silver that self boots!

 

This is true. I always felt the story was plausible (like the Loch Ness monster) but I never found anything to contradict it so I assumed it had some level of validity to it. I'd imagine the cost of buying Crazy Taxi solely for the inner ring would cut into profit margins let alone the cost to cut each disc to spec and cut up another disc with the data you wish to boot on it as well.

 

My guess would be they didn't understand the PS2 protection fully so they just cloned huge parts of the disc and changed the program file with their own or something along those lines. The only other reason for looking like some game would be maybe an attempt to stop it from being blocked easily in system BIOS updates.

 

the story i hurd was they got ahold of the crazy taxi glass master
likely one of the worn out glass masters that was being changed out

and they cut the inner section out that has the securaty ring and the burst cutting area

and then fused the inner section to there data made a clone
and made thousands of disks

 

That's probably the most ridiculous method of booting a backup I have ever heard of. You mean you want to boot a CD-R by trimming its outer edge, so that an original game can be placed on top and the security ring can be read off of it? That's insane.

Even if you can't get a modchip, performing a swap trick on a Saturn is easy [once you've taken it apart and taped - or otherwise permanently placed in a "closed" position - the tray connector]. The lens has to move all the way to the outer edge, which is a clear indication of when the console is going for the ring.

EDIT - An important detail when it comes to Saturn modchips: They will allow you to boot backups, homebrew, what have you, but they won't remove the region protection, as it has nothing to do with the ring data [which is what the modchip feeds into the console]. You'll need to region patch your disc or use AR Plus / ST Key or whatever.

 

Yep, a saturn mod chip is a waste of time if you ask me and I'm one of the biggest Saturn fans out there. As I've said a million times, doi g the disc swap does not kill the cd motor at all. Been doing it for over 10 years on the same machine which is still as strong as ever. You'll only break a Saturn doing a disc swap if uou are a heavy handed oaf.

As for playing imports, i just us the pro action replay. I don't use it much but I had to recently when a Saturn beta i wanted to try was a PAL version and I had already burnt it to a CD. I wasn't aboug to wast another CD burning a patched version.

 

When a glass master is worn out it generally means its junked:thumbsup: