NGP - The Prices

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  1. subbie

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    The point is not equal echange rate. I am just saying the point is If something (game related) has a MSRP of $200 in USA, it's 200 Euros in europe, not 200 pounds. You guys do get screwed but don't forget you guys have VAT in your price, we don't.

    I'm being kind of lazy at the moment but if I spent a few hours looking I could drag up a crap load of examples to show exactly this.


    See my point above. =)
     
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    LeGIt I'm a cunt or so I'm told :P

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    Dreamcast - $199 / £199
    Playstation 2 - $299 / £299
    Xbox - $299 / £299

    Some may deviate from this but the majority from my exprience is that they don't. I don't think the case of VAT is entirely relevant. Well I mean of coruse it is but still at face value $200 to you is probably going to equate as £200 to us, which is the point Alchy was getting at :p

    It is a strange world though but even stranger our costs are consistently relatively higher :(
     
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  4. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Obviously in countries that have the Euro for a currency it won't be sold for pounds sterling. But when did we get onto Europe anyway? I said "when it comes out here", my location is UK, and I said the price in dollars will equal the price we pay in pounds - it usually does. Where's the confusion?
     
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    Boy this is still going around in circles. :shrug:

    The point would be that conversion done ends up with Euro being a 1D:1E to the USA price and from there they do the local equivalent for local currency.

    I'll have to pull up examples at some other time when I have a bit more extra time (I guess over the weekend). From my point of view over the last 5 years I always see the UK/Euro price being based off a direct comparison to Euro then a convert to pounds. Not Us direct to pounds like you said.

    I really think we can find something better then this to argue in circles over. :shrug:

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_launch
    United States[7] US$399.99 US$299.99
    Eurozone 399.99 299.99
    UK £279.99 £209.99

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_launch
    USA $599
    EUR 599e
    UK 425p
     
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  6. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    *Sigh*

    Xbox 360 was released 22 November 2005 in the US.

    Exchange rates for 22 November 2005:

    $1 = €0.852
    $1 = £0.584
    €1 = £0.685

    $399.99 = €340.80 = £233.60
    €399.99 = £273.99

    PS3 was released 17 November 2006 in the US and 23 March 2007 in Europe.

    Exchange rates for 23 March 2007:

    $1 = €0.752 = £0.510
    €1 = £0.678

    $599 = €450.45 = £305.49
    €599 = £406.12

    OK, so the Euro figures may be 1:1 to the Dollar figures, but it doesn't mean they're always fairly proportioned.

    Yes, the 360 was a bit more expensive for Europe (€60), but that's expected (especially as it's a US console!). And yes, the UK price was basically worked out from the Euro price - again, no big surprise.

    However, the PS3 was a whopping €150 Euros more expensive than the US launch 4 months previous, and the Euro to Pound ratio is a bit more off.

    What do those US prices include, though? Is that pre tax? Dido you really walk into the store with $599 in your hand and walk out with a PS3? The UK prices are all inclusive of VAT, I'm sure the Euro prices are, too.

    I don't see why the US had the console so much cheaper when it came from Japan. Surely it cost the same to ship to both countries? Sure, Europe has more languages, but would they really charge so much for translation services?

    This has long been a debate - there was a segment on Bad Influence! back in the 90s about costs of the SNES in the US vs. the UK.
     
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    Uggg. Christ. Will people read all the ****ing points before sticking their head into a topic?!? This doesn't have a damn thing about being fare. It was about this comment "It'll be £250 and £320, dollar = pound, just like usual." I pointed out that's not the case that if it's $250 USD it will be 250 Euros and then they will figure out a price in British Pounds from there. Making a note that this is how it is now when he said "just like usual" referring to that it would be 1 BPS for every 1 USD.

    It has nothing to do with conversion rates or etc. It's a discussion about where they start at as the base price point.

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    retro, Yes US prices do not include tax or VAT. There is no federal sales tax in the USA and each state has a different tax rate. There are actually a few states with no sales tax. Again this really is not the point of the argument and I even made slight mention of VAT in this topic already.
     
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  8. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    To chip in, for consoles it used to be GBP = USD until the X360 and PS3. When that happened, the prices changed to better reflect the exchange rate.

    The US price does not include ANY tax. The UK price includes 17.5% tax (now 20%).

    In the UK it is better, but not great. One benefit it often games are cheaper in the UK.
     
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  9. Hellcat

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    PSP-Sense (for the touch, cam and motion detection (or did they scrap that?) "sensor" type of stuff) :clap:

    Or PSP-Live.
     
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    Think I'll wait a bit and get a used NGP. I don't really feel like directly funding Sony with the recent events going on right now.
     
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