Nintendo 1990 World Championship Cart For $0.50

I'm all for an add of adols collection into the GBR-GE :nod:

 

Besides all the members here, i really don't think you're the one that is in position to ask about evidence, being not able to provide any when asked.

Anyway, document yourself. Shawn McCleskey (owner/webmaster of www.neo-geo.com) sold the very same Kizuna Encounter & Ultimate 11 Carts i sold to him back in 1999-2000 for $55000. That's in Retrogamer Issue#70, Shawn being interviewed and talking about it.But i guess you won't buy it, so you have the transcript here:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204929
The interesting quote being:

"During September ’09, I was approached by Neo-Geo.com forum member, Wolf, who was seeking both of these extremely rare titles for his collection. He never expected me to be willing to part with my personal copies and so he did not readily make me an offer directly. Instead, TonK, our resident MVS price guide analyst informed Wolf that I have occasionally sold a handful of titles from my collection in the past for offers that were too good to pass up. After a brief period of negotiation, Wolf and I came to an agreement of $55,000 for the pair. In hindsight, I’m rather certain that Wolf would have paid more and then there’s that kick of reality that my collection is now missing my two most prized pieces. However, $55,000 was one of those offers that qualified as too good to pass up."

Or you can buy the magazine (issue #70), so you'll have the document in your hands. The book, the thing.
Here,for example:

http://www.imagineshop.co.uk/item_show.php?itemID=1386&action=maglist

Thanks ;-)
Maybe when i'll find those last 15-20 titles,letting my end my factory sealed PC Engine/PC-FX/SGX fullset..boy that's hard If i manage to end this, i'd go for Famicom cart fullset (missing 350 games), so i'd be able to own all Sega/Nec fullsets, and for Nintendo from FC up to Wii (but not counting GB/DS, i'm not much not into handhelds, so: FC,FDS,SFC,VB,N64,DD64,GC)
But i have no idea of what this book is REALLY about..i mean, it looks like a very NOT well documented book, that only speak about what happens in USA, not in the world. Lots of wrong info, it seems. But i'd gladly accept a member of such institute to visit me, if necessary.

 

Just because someone says they sold it for $xxxxx doesn't mean anything. Just because some magazine published someone saying it too also doesn't mean anything. However I'll point the right person in the right direction to get some evidence for the 2011 book.

I am sure you can say you sold a Super Mario Bros beta cartridge signed by everyone at Nintendo to some guy in Saudi Arabia for $100,000 and get someone at a niche magazine to say you sold it for $$$$ but it's still not evidence.

have you really read it? Although a lot of the gaming records are american as Twin Galaxies who have been doing game records since the 80s are American there is quite a lot of world related items. The 2011 book will have a lot more asian stuff though.]

But you just said that you had no idea about what the book is really about...

I'd be careful what you wish for...

 

In that case, your Guinness book doesn't mean anything either, since it's just publishing info. Great. All newspapers on the world are just publishing someone saying something. You gave a fantastic point.
I give WAY more credit to Shawn than your Guinness thing. WAY, WAY more.
And the buyer is known, you can contact him. or they can contact him.
If this institution want more evidence,i'm pretty sure they'd be able to provide it. But saying the world record for a video game commercially released being an obscure soccer or fighting game not released in USA on an obscure system won't help to sell, facing the "holy" Nintendo World Championship Gold Cart most people know about.
But it is their job to check any updates/tracks about it,and ask for more..and i feel they're pretty lousy at it.

Yes,so i looked into it.
What I meant is i had no idea what kind of records they publish. I had a french edition of this, and how they "select" the records to publish looked at least strange.
But at least, if their goal is to provide informations to readers about such records, at least let it be correct information, not fake.
Too, by hearing what many people told me about it (original US version), their info is mostly based on US stuff, they're not competent enough to check info on other countries on the planet accurately. They publish what they want US readers to read, that was my point. But maybe they make variations of their book, depending of the country..
Whatever. $55k anyway.

Qu'entends-tu par là?

 

It's all relative.
Paying $250 million for a painting isn't common sense either.
Both isn't COMMON.

 

Thanks for the info Adol - I see where you're coming from.

Common sense? I think the comparison with paintings (modern art) is highly applicable. - In many ways the purchase is regarded as an investment - hey, at least you can play Kizuna Encounter! (well...kind of.)

 

No problem.
Gotta go, new year is coming ;-)

 

ah crap, I m late to the party.

Anyway, the fact that someone sold something at some price is a matter of luck. Having money is one thing, throwing it mindlessly is another.

You may now bring in your comments that what is worth what is subjective and you'll be right too, but come on, there's certainly more useful things to do with money, even if its your own money. I don't think being rich is an excuse for getting off to rare/expensive idols, that's just vanity.

 

Except when he is moaning like a bitch because he is too cheap to pay for any form of postal insurance and still expects all his money back.]

The thing about paintings is you know you do have an original of the only painting in the world, it seems a bit silly paying hundreds of times what the game costs in Japan just because it has a slightly different cover and a English manual... the chances are if wolf tried to selling KE and U11 now he would struggle to get anywhere near what he paid for them, where as a rare painting would still probably get what they paid for it at least...

 

Since you begin with the nice words..
That happens when i'm dealing with a scam artist like you, not sending the stuff people pay for. Not even being able to send a proof of sending or anything. Just plain scam, you never sent anything, and were never able to prove you ever sent something.
Happy new year, let's hope you won't scam as many people in 2010 that you scammed in 2009. The world doesn't need your scams.

About the painting, the difference between Euro & japanese Kizuna Encounter is as stupid as can be the difference between a Nintendo World Championship GOLD Cart and GREY Cart. Come on, 3 times the price for a difference of colour? How more stupid can it be?
However, i can find plenty of video game examples produced in ONE copy,that won't reach $250 million.

 

Ok so this one time I totally sold a copy of Red Dawn on NES for a cool 2 Mil, but I blew through all of the money on hookers and coke and now have nothing to show for it and no proof what so ever. Except that I just told all of you guys so if you would kindly spread the word I will appreciate it.

I'll be waiting for Guinness to contact me soon!

The reason Guinness is a some what reliable source is because they do in fact verify all of the info contained there in. They do not recognize any claims unless they themselves have seen and recorded the events. They do not in any way discriminate based upon location, however if you wish to get in the book you need to contact them so that they can come and verify the event.

 

I agree with you, this kind of record is stupid,since i could say i sold a duck hunt loose cart for $60k to my friend,and that'd be the world record. Just because he's crazy stupid to pay this price.
But i guess Guinness would just have to accept such fact,if proofs are provided.
About the $55k deal, i'm pretty sure it's real,and they could provide all necessary proofs. Shawn had them for a decade,getting crazy offers for it, that'd make sense. But they're not hidden in the dark,you can contact them (him,and Wolf).

 

No actually you started this in your post bellow. So dont then fill in my inbox reporting crap and calling the moderators unfair when its you that brought up the subject.

Im not going to delete any of his insults to you because you insist on bringing up the subject and calling him a scammer. This has been sorted and dealt with and the forum generally agrees that your in the wrong. The subject ends here and if you dint have to bring it up in every post he wouldn't have to call you a whinny bitch.

Now get back to the subject or your posts will be deleted from now on.

 

Absolutely not. Check timeline. Timeline doesn't lie.

Bring it up? Seriously?
How old is he, 5? Calling anyone a whinny bitch without being moderated after being reported..except here, where does this happen?
But since mod's BFF is talking..everything is allowed.

Here is my post 2 days ago:

That's it. That's what i said.
Then, after that, he quoted me. Not the opposite. He's the one talking to me, coming to me. I thought you were pretty clear asking him to not come to me. But it seems he doesn't need to respect your askings.
I don't know why i even bothered to answer him, since it can't do any good. He would just have to document by himself, but well..
And then, he insulted me. That's how timeline works. NOT the opposite.

The word he used,bitch, is indeed an insult. I never called him anything BEFORE he mentionned the word bitch. Check chronology, once again. But since he's not taking any gloves AFTER QUOTING ME (i didn't talk to him, he is the one coming to me), there's no reason i'd take gloves either.
It is prohibited by your rules. Rules he can break anytime he wants, but everybody saw that for a long time.
I expected moderation, seems i was wrong.

Too,UNLIKE him, I already went back to the topic, just check my last post:

You're asking something i already did before your intervention.
Happy new year.

 

Oh yes it is! It's a huge insult when you call into question someones morals.

 

Well,sorry then,i corrected my post.
I insulted him after he insulted me. My bad.
But i didn't call it into question, I'm pretty sure about it. My wallet knows.

Anyway, i was already back on topic yesterday. Buyer&seller are known, you can ask all evidences you want about the transaction, if retrogamer published book isn't enough for you.

 

Well, I appreciate everyone's input on this matter because I strongly feel even though the Nintendo World Championship 1990 carts are quite rare due to a few that exist. But the price and the 15 mins of fame JJ Hendrix received in the Press feels so contrived / misleading. Video gaming has a 30+ year history. Guinness should really pay attention to the gaming industry and not the EBAY AUCTIONS ! You've got clowns out there with lots of money and no common sense . Like someone said, historical paintings are a one-of-a-kind and very well documented. The value should always stay the same - if not more than it was originally worth. Its a pivotal piece of history! There's isnt' any confirmation from Nintendo on how those competition carts got away from its original handlers. Anybody can say there was only 26 copies. Shame on Guinness!

 

Does anyone here on this forum own a real NWC1990 cart?