Nintendo's answer to their shitty machine.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/674/674611p1.html

i'll still buy one.

 

Seems like a fair arguement to me. As great as the 360 looks, it definatly isnt a, ehem, revolution

 

I think Nintendo makes a valid point there, I just hope that their decision doesn't result in their downfall. Pretty graphics are lovely, but it's usually not the graphics that make a game good or not, its the gameplay. Unfortunately, many gamers seem to care more about how nice the graphics look than how the games actually play. I personally think that many of the games from the 8 & 16 bit generations were more fun than the flashy games of today, regardless of how pretty their graphics were. I guess we will just have to wait and see how the video game players of the world react to the Revolution vs. the X360 and PS3.

 

I wish there was way to calculate the number of gamers who are fed up with the way the industry has gone.I think the Rev is made for them.Its taking gaming back to the grain or so it seems.Leave no outlet for crappy port by your controller and hardware.It seem to be a console that forces innovation or gimmicks.I cant wait for it as I have faith in Nintendo.

 

That mission statement did nothing for me, just seems like a "ooh shit, we can't afford what we originally envisioned, so we better do damage control before people see the real thing"

This focus on the controller, rather than the console or the software is worrying, the Eye Toy was "innovative" to a degree, but has hardly been used for anything truely groundbreaking. Yeah Nights played with your hands was amusing, but I wouldn't want to play through the entire game doing that.

 

i'm too woried of the Revolution following the Ds footsteps and pretty much have mostly tech demos for the first 6 months.

I also HIGHLY feel that games will been even more far & between then n64 & gamecube.

 

You know? Nintendo would also have been thought to be "t3h d00m3d" had there been an Internet when the Super Famicom came out. I mean... The Super Famicom did have half the clock speed of the Genesis, back in the day.
The N64, in contrast, was a lot more powerful than the PSX, and it didn't have as much impact.
I'll wait for the software before making any judgement on console power alone, impressive as the 360 and PS3 innards may be.

 

Just makes me want one more. Might have to be the first console I import on release, particularly if there is no PAL release date in sight

 

I'm one of the few who haven't fallen into the Revolution bandwagon. I really, really, really want Nintendo to make a comeback, i love their games. Unfortunately, i think nintendo has made a number of missteps lately. The last two mario sports games were crap, I really didn't like Mario Kart double dash, their "limited edition" silver gamecube still pisses me off, and there's still politicial infighting between NOJ and NOA. Who's bright idea was it to greenlight Luigi's mansion as a launch title for the game cube? I think the controller idea is awesome, i think there's a lot of potential there, i'm just not confident in nintendo's decision making ability ever since their restructureing in 2000 (or was it 2001, i can't remember now).

 

Nintendo has done the market research. They know that upscale buyers will go with xbox 360 and ps3. They know that the next gen video game market will be run the way apple sells thier products like ipod essntially meaning "only cool rich people use our products, you should get one too" Its just like the hidef TV thing, it looks better at a price but a large market share don't care about or understand the differences. Nintendo knows that once the ps3 and xbox 360 get into full swing people without lots of $$ and HD tv's will be left behind (there are lots of these people out there) Thats the market they are going for. Parents strapped for cash and last minute uninformed grandma purchases. Look at things right now, why isn't the regular xbox and ps2 $99 USD. Because I have a feeling that the next gen systems will coexist with current systems. To me it feels like xbox360 and ps3 are going to be premium products that will be permenantly above the $200USD mark. Poor gamers will be playing regular xbox, PS2 and revolution. Rich gamers will be playing 360 and ps3. Games are not for everybody anymore because xbox360 is the PRADA of video gaming, while revolution will be the GAP of gaming. We will not see a repeat crash and burn due to high prices like the jaguar or 3do, current products are going to be sold based on style and a persons ability to fashionable, price does not matter to that type of customer and nintendo will be going after the "have-nots" in this case.

 

Id rather have an NES than, say, a Neo Geo. I would certainly have more fun with it. This is what Nintendo is banking on.

I think some of you need to take a step OUT of the Elite Gamer/Hardcore collector paradigm and think about who this is for.

Just over the past weekend, we had a big party at my place, full of people who wanted to play video games.... men and women. The problem was, the best games we had for multiplayer were on the Dreamcast and N64. We chose the N64 because we could get 4 people going at once. From there, there was a lot of dealing with who sat where and who got what controller (The women didnt like the huge third party ones). A lot of the people never used the n64 controller, and while they did ok, when wanting to jump right in and play, 120983021830812909812 buttons are rediculous (this applies to ALL current consoles).

Wouldn't it be better if we were all sitting around, and could just toss the remote controller back and forth, sitting whereever we wanted, with little to no learning curve? I think so.

 

you definitely should get donkey konga
it's one of those games we usualy have running when it's party

 

Shouldn't that read:

 

Ya there stance has always been to be the cheap system, that people can actually afford on the spot and not have to save up for 5 months to get, I might actually get this system (first one since the N64, a good buy I must say)

 

Good point about the N64. It was the epitome of multiplayer back in its day, just like the XBOX is now with Live. But seriously, the current generation controllers aren't THAT hard to learn. I've been playing since the NES, and I remember making the switch the N64 controller. It took less than a minute to master.

 

I remember being baffled by analog sticks, I just couldn't fathom how that would work, until I actually sat down with a Dual Shock and N64 pad.

I think Revolution is getting better and better, ESPECIALLY with the prices. I'm sick of having to wait forever to play stuff I wan't to play because it's so expensive.

 

i dunno, as long as the tech doesnt limit creativity, new ideas and gameplay, wich would contradict the revolution's phylosophy itself, i'm okay with it.

I hate how games have become so superficial these days, to the point that you no longer know if people buy games for the what it contains, or in what it is contained. I would pick evolution of gameplay over evolution of graphics any day.

 

Well, we won't know what Revolution is like until it gets here...I mean...we have an idea, but Nintendo still says they have a huge trick up their sleeve, so that could change everything.

 

You know, that's something that everybody says, but I don't think it's true. Look at all the past console wars, the console with the best graphics never wins.

Nes vs. SMS - Nes has crappier graphics, Nes wins.

Gameboy vs. Game Gear - Gamegear has a color screen and decent versions of games that get the shitbucket treatment on the Gameboy. Gameboy has a 4 color screen that blurs horribly. Gameboy wins. Gamboy also kicks Lynx and Turbo Express to the curb without even trying.

GBA vs. every other handheld released from 1999 onward - Many handhelds had graphics as good as or better than GBA, including Wonderswan, GP32, Ngage, Tapwave Zodiac, etc. GBA stomps them all.

Snes vs. Genesis - Snes wins, but only after years and years and years of Sega taking all the best franchises and thier customers away. It wasn't until late in the cycle that the Snes started to outsell the Genesis. 3Do and Jag also competed with Snes (and both had better graphics. Both lost horribly.) Other 16 bit systems like TG-16 or Neo Geo fade away or find niche markets.

Playstation 1 Vs. N64 vs. Saturn- Ps1 and Saturn have comprable graphics and nearly identical gameplay. Ps1 stomps Saturn on strength of brand name. Ps1 has crappier graphics vs N64. Ps1 wins on strength of titles.

Ps2 vs. Gamecube Vs. Xbox - Both Gamecube and Xbox have better graphics than Ps2. Ps2 stomps all over all of them.

Psp vs. DS - Psp has better graphics, and way more features. DS sells more than Psp.

So obviously it's not just graphics that count. And actually it's not just gameplay that counts, becasue all of the systems that lost have good games on them too . It's a combination of marketing, consumer confidence, "coolness" factor. Very few people out there own more than one game system at any given time. They buy one, then they usually stick with it. And who's opinion do they take when making this descision? Thier friends ("Buy PS2 becasue all the good games are on it" or "Don't get game cube becasue it's all kids games") or even the guy at the store, who looks at what kid of customer it is (parent, hardcore gamer, teen ager, casual 30s-something gamer who used to play Donkey Kong back in the day and wants a game system to feel young, etc) and makes his recomendation based on that. Very few people see a TV commercial and run out and buy a whole system just based on that. Very few people read gaming magazines and buy games based on reviews. Very few people even rent games before they buy them. It's all about playing the game at a friends house or at the store or something.

We tend to think that becasue we own multiple game systems and compare them to each other that all the gaming public is like us, but they're not. Most people buy one game system, then trade it in when the next one comes along, and that next one is usually the one that comes out first. Saturn sold like crazy when it was first released, then got dropped like a bad habit when PS1 came along. Ps2s were like selling for like thousands of dollars. Even 3Dos were the gotta-have-it console (for about three months.) Thats just how this industry works. I actually think it's pretty interesting that three consoles managed to survive in a (lopsided) market in the current gen, I see no reason why three new consoles can't continue in this way.

 

Sony's sucess was mainly because of RPGs, IMO. There werent many out there for the N64, though it had some good RPGs too.

Sometimes I wonder exactly what percentage of the market enjoys RPGs...

I wouldnt be surprised if 70% of their titles were RPGs. :lol: