Obscure Hardware Snes Clone (Super Prosystem 16)

Fantastic post! I've never seen any of those before. I love how the Super Famicom / SNES comes packaged with a copier, I would also love to have that ugly but do cool Famicom with built in monitor and copier.

In Japan this stuff is also rare! In fact Japanese clone systems are easy to find all over the world unless there's a secret underground scene that I've been unaware of for the last 18 years of living here.

 

Those consoles are absolutely fantastic! I'm baffled by those SNES clones, seeing how they came packed with a sort of game doctor, at least this is what it seems to me. And what is this radio looking console? It even has a floppy drive besides its own screen! It's mesmerizing.
Naturally, I wouldn't say most clones were produced in China, such would be a wrong assertive. In reality, I can't help but believe all clones were manufactured in it (I'm including Taiwan among it), without exception. However, it's necessary to set down some important facts regarding a specific Brazilian company: Dynacom. During the Market Reserve Law, Dynacom had to develop and reverse engineer by itself an Atari clone so it could distribute it in the country and due to the scarcity of Atari games, Dynacom built its own cartridges from scratch. According to the president of Dynacom in an interview, the "burning" process of a single game was extremely slow due to the technological restrictions they had. The employees of Dynacom had to take turns without interruption 24h a day during 3 weeks in order to produce mere 5000 Atari games. Once the Market Reserve Law was revoked, most cloning companies indeed imported their consoles because it would greatly reduce the costs. This is the key point to the prominence of China: some would call it social dumping (which reeks of prejudice to me), others globalization, but the fact is, even nowadays the vast majority of electronic components is manufactured in China. Regardless, this is the Dynavion 2, an NES clone by Dynacom.



With your great contribution to the thread, it would be unfair if I did not share more of the Brazilian flavor. Also, good luck finding any look-alike of these where you live! Some specifics on the following clones:

The Bitsystem was one of the first NES clones available in the Brazilian market. It is extremely scarce because not an awful lot of units were sold and the ones that got in the hands of the consumer all broke down. It was notorious for its frail build quality. In the vast majority of cases, it is reputed that it would break down in a matter of two years.



The Phantom System is the most notorious and renown NES clone in Brazil. It was produced by Gradiente and its resemblance to the Atari 7800 is no mere coincidence. Gradiente intended to officially release the Atari console in Brazil but it gave up because it wasn't much of a commercial success in the USA. So, since it already had produced the casing, it utilized it for the Phantom System.



The Megavision is rather rare because it was released alongside the Super Prosystem 16 and a lawsuit was filed against it, which was promoted by TecToy, the official Sega licensed company. Since they knew they'd lose it, they decided to pull the Megavision out of the Market. It came with its own Master System Converter and two excellent c



If you happen to see anything like the Milmar or the Top System, do let me know! There's still a vast array of consoles exclusive to Brazil that I didn't go over.

 

Also, could you maybe point in the right direction? And maybe spell the systems name in chinese?

 

The Japanese makes copiers themselves as well back in the day? That's pretty interesting

Those looks pretty dope! wished a few chinatown places had a electronics store or flea market in my Boston area that sold stuff like the ones in your pictures

 

this is interesting, i have a famiclone with snes controllers with a coax plug (with an antenne)

 

You're right brPariah, some local companies reversed engineered hardwares and probably some even manufactured those clone locally, hence the reason I said "almost"
Though usually, for asian manufacturers, as reverse engineering is a costly process and risky for obvious copyright reasons, it was safer and more economically viable to make some kind of OEM clones with different names.
In Thailand I found several "flavors" of the same copier sold under different names for example, just because it was distributed by different companies who obviously all pretended it was their original product lol:


Very interesting stuff you posted. I don't know much about the brazilian market, I know import taxes are kinda mad and a friend of mine whose a videogame wholesaler based in Miami has been specializing on the South American for the last 15 years, as I understand you really need to have your networks to penetrate these markets.
BTW I found an ad with your exact same model in my archives:

The logo is of Micro Genius which is a Taiwan based company, known for the quality of their clones

Now I'll try to answer all the other questions although I should make another full thread

The device with the built in CRT was made by Sunsonic, an educational all-in-one famicom clone. There are at least 2 models:



It was sold in Thailand and I believe it was inspired by the Doctor PC Jr from Bung. It has a printer port, RF, RCA ....
I posted a thread a while ago on the Bit79, same kind of device.

The other clones labeled "Family" are all from the same company, Family, the main video game distributor in Thailand in the 80s-90s.
The FR-102/202 are famicom clones, the 302 a MD clone and the 402 a SFC clone packaged with a Gamars FC-301 copier with an altered bios v6.8

Yes Japan sold copiers like the cyclone or an alternate version of the SWC DX, the Ad-Hoc:


As for translated words in native language it would take some time but have fun with this one : หัวโปร

 

Thank you very much for you input, you're very knowledgeable. I thought I'd never see anything like my snes clones considering how scarce it is. As it should be expected, there was a counterpart to it in Taiwan! I also knew it had a great quality for a clone, given that you're keen of its Tawanese brand; to me it is even on par with the official console. I'd really appreciate it if you shared more of your knowledge on those obscure clones in the other thread dedicated for it!

 

Thanks
I saw the new thread, my archives folder is a big mess but I'll try to contribute, thought most of the gray hardwares I've been collecting are copiers. You can find many threads on the Tototek forum.

 

Holy clone collection...Im speechless as I wasnt aware of the amount... :O

 

Also have 2 units of Super Prosystem 16, including box, however only one of them is complete with control

Really the quality of sound and image, are virtually identical to the original SNES, however the great advantage of this clone, to use cartridges Jp , European and Usa

 

Here a couple pics of the well known SNES Game Doctor "Gamestation" CD-rom system



The main board has the same known clone chips, and the smaller daughter board has the Game Doctor SF7 hardware.





I wired a cartridge connector to the main board and sure enough, it became a regular Super Nintendo/SFC system



Not my videos, but here you can see what the system does for those that don't know (although mine plays Donkey Kong Country no problem ) :

 

HI! I am a chinese , In fact ,It is easy to find a clone game console in Chinamainland or TAIWAN and HongKong .Because it was very popular in 1990 for cheaper price than origin Japanese coosole,some of those even export to anther country like Russia and Brasil.These years , I collect some clone consoles.It looks very funny.

 

Is that a karaoke cartridge for a XiaoBaWang famiclone or a stand-alone system? Never seen that before...

 

It is a karaoke system card that need to be inserted in famicom or famiclone .It saved 240 songs those were popular in 1990s China and have been convert into 8Bit electrionc music.But in fact ,it is a rare product of SUBOR(小霸王）,when it was released in 1994 , Video CD players and 16Bit game console clone like Mega Drive/Gensis clone or SNES/SFC clone had arised in market.So it is hard to be seen even in China.

你是香港人啊，那我直接用繁體中文吧，方便多了。這個是小霸王的卡拉OK卡帶，插在紅白機上，卡匣上有兩個麥克接口，可以外接麥克，裏面内置了240首90年代大陸港臺地區的流行歌曲，比如張學友的劉德華的老歌。都是8位的電子樂，插上麥克可以混音在電視機上唱喜歡的卡拉OK，這東西不常見，我也是在舊倉庫里找出來的，1994年時在電視臺上做過廣告，但當時沒見過實物，之後在淘寶網上有幸見到小霸王廠家清理庫存才買下。不過這東西好像廠量很少，聽説隻生產了不到1000套，因爲當時VCD和世嘉五代以及超任兼容機都上市了，所以隻在某些地方發售了一些就停產了。

 

@69yuan I assume that was a Chinese translation of the English, so I merged the two posts. Please use the edit button or multi-quote rather than double posting.

This is an English language forum... please speak English.

 

OK，I will，thank you

 

This is absolutely amazing! I'm baffled there's a mega drive clone shaped after the PS1 which is even compatible with the 32x! I bet it has a great fidelity if it's not perfect, that is. This is mind boggling. China is undoubtedly fantastic, I really wish I could visit it someday. Were those clone consoles widespread in MAINLAND China back in the day and easily accessible? Was it really easy to find and buy consoles around the nineties and early 2000 in MAINLAND China? I'm very curious, have you ever seen a hardware SNES clone in mainland China? Besides, even though you mentioned those things go for pretty cheap, how much would it cost me in dollars to buy, say, a Game Doctor Sf7, a Mega Drive clone or a GameStation (the utmost latter goes for an exorbitant price in the West!)? And for how much do famiclones usually go for (in a direct conversion for dollars)? Nowadays is it easy to find retro games for sale in general or would you have to look into very specific places? Sorry if I'm flooding you with questions, but I'm pretty sure China is the paradise of clone consoles, so it really does pique my interest. Besides, China itself has a wonderful history and it's a nation I have a great amount of respect for but due to the cultural barrier, I don't have much knowledge about it, unfortunately. Regards from Brazil.

 

Clone consoles were easy to found in China around the 1980s and 1990s ,from Atari 2600 clone to 16bit game consoles(MD/SNES) clone.In early 2000,most players began to play PS2 or SEGA DC and NGC,but those are not clone consoles.My father was bought a set of 2600 TV GAME ( Atari 2600 clone) when he was young in 1985 and it's much cheaper than origin console.Another important reason is the origin console is not easy to found in China,It should be imported from japan with high prices , and most seller were selling clone consoles.So it's easier to get clone consoles than origin.But some clones are not easy to found even in China ,like the BBK corporation,They produced the PS1 shape MEGA DRIVE clone ,it was released in 1995 ,but in 1996,Sony sued the them for the appearance design patent.It had to been suspended unfortunately.
That's best SEGA MD clone i have ever seen,for its fantastic shape and good compatibility and bass boost headphone output.I just test it runing with 32X and they perform perfect,I didn't get MEGA CD to test its CD extend.But I guess it will runing perfert too.

 

My initial reaction was "WTF that 32X and PS1 are doing?!"

 

The good thing about the Genesis is that many of the parts (68000, Z80, YM2612, SN76489, possibly others) were off-the-shelf parts that anyone could buy unlike the proprietary parts in the SNES that you had to clone.
I think the graphics chip was the only major part of the Genesis that wasn't available to buy off-the-shelf (I could be wrong though)