origins of protos - more coming

Simple question, how do you know this? The problem with prototypes is that people assume things about them that you cannot assume. There could be more than one prototype cartridge. Someone else could have gotten ahold of another cart somehow. Unless you have some specific way of telling that the prototype is infact the same one you possessed before. I'm not saying you are wrong or lieing or anything like that, just stating that it can't be assumed that there is only 1 prototype cartridge out there one some particular game.

 

I just read the post by mike/tonk. I have no problem with the guy, but I do think he goes about things in a wrong manner, but let's not digress any further.....

His question about specific details about the game is ridiculous
I used to play Montezuma's Revenge and Miner 2049er on ColecoVision for years, yet I couldn't answer such a detailed and specific question about a certain fruit or background detail from memory. I don't think anyone would be able to do that without popping in the game and playing it again.

To prove my point
Here's my question for anyone to answer from memory within a few minutes!
Blue's Journey, 5th stage, what is the new boss weapon?
What is in the background on the right?

How can anyone be expected to know the answer that I'm looking for, without being able to check the game. No one will know subtle details because it's not something players are thinking of at the time. (this isn't video game Jeopardy).
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No. Ask NCI. Nothing to do with you.

Continuing to lie when the facts show otherwise shows what a cunt you really are.

And stop trying to brush all this under the carpet. YOU started this thread to try and steal other people's thunder, so take the flack when you're proven to be a shitbag.

NGF never had these protos, there is simply no proof.

PS - I see you have changed your sig. How pathetic you are that you can't ever seem to stand by your own words / behaviour. What a loser.

 

You mist MottZilla's post (how surprising).

 

Well the posts I'm referring to aren't ones putting you in the most positive light, but it's a 11 year old forum thread where all the picture comparisons are dead links by now, plus I never really cared to begin with. Suffice to say, there was some drama around it.

And of course I remember Zupapa! I consider it one of the dozen or so good Neogeo games.
I did contact you about those art stickers, back in 2005. As it is, I was broke then, and I'm still broke now, to buy a few art stickers. I'd love to get them (or the data stored on those MO discs, provided they are HQ copies of the art, which would save me the hassle of scanning), but my money has too many other priorities.

 

Relax guy, give me time to reply to questions.

Great question Mottzilla

No assumptions and no banter on private deals
Never have I spoken out about private deals to the public, unless the purchaser opens up first.
With that being said, I know who our Bang Busters was sold to, and what that person did with the game.

I've done a numbers of transactions with members here and on other neo sites. I offered and sold 100 aes snaplock cases here at assembler and within a month they were being resold on ebay for triple the price. I sold neo game cds, neo music cds, laserdiscs, and of course, many aes carts from my personal collection. Some have resold the items and claimed to be the original owners. Some may not want to deal with loudmouths making a an issue of the items origins. No big deal.

Sellers didn't mention they purchased from NGF because they didn't have to nor are they obligated to.
People can buy and resell whatever they want. Remember, NGF was a distributor, so our business was to sell in bulk and let other people resell and make money as well. (the way all business is done)
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For the final fucking time, stop trying to intimate that you have had anything to do with NCI B2B!

I appreciate you are a cunt, and clearly a stupid one at that, on top of being a thief and a liar.

Your misleading words, half truths etc...CUNT.

In a post of yours here you claim a picture is of a B2B proto, claim, because you have no proof it is what you say it is.

You have repeatedly hinted that NCI aquired B2B from you, albeit indirectly.

So let's have a look then shall we.

As posted here
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=540495&postcount=350
NGC supposed B2B proto (Yes, we are neo geo cunts!)



(I uploaded the piccie separately as Dickhead is wont to edit his posts as soon as inconsistencies are pointed out)

And a quote in advance of the likely edit...

NCI B2B proto here
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...394102131.51112.129060620484009&type=1&ref=nf

So you sold a B2B proto. That was then converted from flash to chips, which were then added to a NG socket board. That was then sold back to Visco, and then acquired by NCI.

Yeah, you're clearly responsible for the NCI proto! And I'm Tess Daly.

 

Yes, that is our original Bang Busters flash rom cartridge. So what?
Flash Roms can be dumped and burned to eproms.

Every Bang Buster sold was by nci or other resellers uses eprom chips.
It isn't like anyone can make and sell hundreds of flash rom cartridges.
But you're free to believe any story you like.

Every person who owns a Bang Busters aes or mvs can open their cartridges and verify that the cartridge they bought have eproms. I fail to see your point.

By the way, I'll show a photo of the neogeo modem cartridge that we showed at the CGE2k1 for future talks and interest. (yes, the neogeo had a modem cartridge). Give you guys some more interesting stuff and information on our beloved neogeo.
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How fucking stupid can you get! Dion stupid, that's how fucking stupid.

You and that other sack of shit claim, hint, suggest etc that NCI indirectly acquired B2B from you.

They got it from Visco.

So unless you sold your 'proto', the data was then format changed (which obviosuly can be done, and yes of course I know what the NCI B2B carts are), sold back to Visco etc.....I mean come on. What are you missing here. What do you fail to understand?

Are you claiming then that you sold your proto, the buyer of it burnt it to a socket dev boards, then sold / gave it back to Visco, for NCI to then come along?

If not, then kindly explain how a proto you claim to have had, since released by NCI, came from Visco to NCI? Perhaps I'm missing something????
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...02131.51112.129060620484009&type=1&permPage=1
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...02131.51112.129060620484009&type=1&permPage=1

Your supposed B2B proto and the confirmed, that's right, CONFIRMED NCI proto have nothing to do with each other.

Except in your head.

 

Believe what you want.
But how naive can you really be? Visco wouldn't sell an eprom cartridge to an outsider.
Gaming companies sell game programs as files on disc, not as burnt eproms.
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So you're saying the NCI proto is fake*? That's the best you can do now?

Edit - I don't believe I have ever said 'sold' to NCI. Acquired by etc does not equate to sale.

Edit 2 - *coming from someone who's brief business traded to a large extent in fakes, I don't find your assertion surprising...just impossible to believe.

 

:lol:


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This screenshot comes from NCI , you can verify.... :nod:

 

That's got to be fake too!!!!:lol:

(I was saying it wasn't fake, just in a roundabout way! I support NCI)

Oh wait, not everyone goes to such lengths to maintain a charade...just those really dedicated liars like NGF.

 

i remember the smurf figurines I got for my second birthday. I remember how much the little Navy sailor uniform itched. I remember dreams i had when I was six years old. I remember Strider's teddy bear in the background at Ken's Bedroom in Street figther Alpha 2. I haven't played SFA2 since 1998. i remember how my sister's eyes bubbled in a nightmare I had when I was 10. I remember a loop i made in my signature in high school one week.

Surely you can remember some detail from a video game you apparently owned for years and took great pride in playing when nobody else could. "video game Jeopardy" is pretty much exactly what this is, except he asked you for an answer, not a question. And even offered you money.

It's not really his fault he caught you in a lie and now you're scrambling to regain whatever credibility you may or may not have had.

 

Some people may remember details and others may not. That being said, I never played much of that game or any of the other neo games too often. I couldn't tell you anything about Quiz Chibi or Twinkle Star Sprites either. I doubt I could recall much of AoF2 or WH2Jet, and those were my favorite games.

To each their own.
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Dion.. What's the NGH number for the game? Surely as the sole owners you guys KNEW THAT or WROTE IT DOWN somewhere...

 

Yeah, I'd also like to know the NGH numbers of Last Odyssey and Warlocks of the Fates, and any of the other unreleased games you own.

And what's the NGH for the Irritating Maze Joystick Version please? Is it 236 like the standard version, or did it get assigned its own unique number?

 

NGF on ngh numbers
NGF stopped giving out NGH numbers to games over 12 years ago. This dates back to the dhp mailing list era. We saw how easily people forgot the ngh information we shared, or that they still doubted us, so we declared that we wouldn't talk of sequential numbers. Plus some people would get the numbers and claim to own an unreleased game, so we stopped giving numbers out as we didn't see ngh numbers and valid proof of anything.

Even on the NGF promo videos for all games: Fun Fun Brothers, Ganryu, Prehistoric Isle 2, Strikers 1945, Zupapa, Last Odyssey, Bang Busters, Mystic Wand, we never showed the numbers. Even our promo video inserts are numbered with a different NGF-V code.

We have a full list of ALL game numbers to all games both found or that still remain elusive. (from A to Z)(001-270something) (including Pair Pair Wars, QP, Dunk Star, Sunshine, etc...) We received the list direct from SNK-Japan files. (In other words, we have the numbers to all games, even ones we have never seen, played, or owned)

Just as we do not share/dump roms, we do not share/dump ngh numbers for any game (released/unreleased/found/missing)
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Dion, you seem to have avoided some posts here. Care to expand on your repeated claims that NCI owe their B2B to you? I think that's been proven a lie.

So too your 'ownership' of LO.

And as for the NGH numbers, please. Is that really the best you can do now?

Even by your low standards, your recent rebuffs are weak, and I think most people can finally see through your bullshit.

 

I'd really, really love to learn about all that (as with many other people), the numbers for all the games, seen or not seen, to learn correct title names/spellings etc. But ultimately your saying we have no chance of that, to learn about them from yourself, despite all the good things that could do (to learn new things/correct existing info, just filling in the blanks on many game databases).

I sincerely ask will you not change your stance/mind? Like you said, it has been 12 years now and I think lots can change in that amount time.