origins of protos - more coming

there must be a ton of proto of that particular game,
actually i own a proto of Last Odyssey too.

Anyway, having a release from Dion and another release from the one who bought the cart from Dion would mean a relatively low selling price.
That's a good thing for collector hoarding this extra-rare and unreleased game.

 

Can't wait to hear this one.

Good catch Juste.

 

Dion, you also may have missed this, just making sure you get a chance to respond.

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=557316&postcount=32

 

edit for clarity
You guys seem to be reaching now or may not understand some details about how some games are made, and how rom files are shared.

We sold our original FLASH ROM cartridge, that does not mean the game hasn't been backed up. How do you guys think copies of Ghostlop, Ironclad, or Bang Busters were made? Rom to eprom.

So mike/tonk? are you now posting here as skymathematics? are you not man enough to admit or post under your real name? lol
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Usually when people sell protos they don't retain a copy.
You also stated the buyer is planning a release.
And you are too now? Bet the buyer is happy.
On lemmeguesslol, the buyer wants to release it THROUGH NGF?

As always, your posts are non-answers and BS.

You can't sell what you never had. Well actually YOU can, like any common thief.

Edit Please enough re B2B. The only release of this game had nothing to do with you. Your 'release' doesn't exist until you show proof (which you can't).

 

So does that mean you can provide a gameplay video?

Also, if you had the ROM files the entire time, why not take the $20k cash offer?

One more thing - surely you guys would know the questions were made up, having the ROM in your possession, correct?

 

Mike/Tonk? Why do you keep avoiding the question?
I thought you would NEVER post at assembler again?

Anyway, I will not answer any more of your questions because you're turning this into Salem Massachusetts and the witch hunts (or should I say wizard hunts).

Yes we can provide game play, which I already did. I personally recorded Last Odyssey on the NGF promo video tape that we gave out. (you know... the one you guys have been talkig about for 10 years) wow. hilarious.

As for the questions you asked... as I said before, I wouldn't be able to answer any of them. I still couldn't tell you any details about KoF2000 backgrounds or bonus rounds either,

Mike/tonk/skymathematics, feel free to focus your life on Chris, myself, and NGF. feel free to make new alias screen names to attack us some more, while trying to hide your identity. That's your thing, isn't it? That's what you do, right?

I'm done playing cat and mouse with you. You'll never accept anything and you'll always live in denial. So take care and stick to ng.com
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Learn reading comprehension people...
We sold our FLASH ROM cartridge to a collector. He said he wants to do a release.
He's asking advice and wants to work together with NGF on doing a release because the sales would reach a larger market. There are more details than people seem to realize when attempting to make a full release.

people of all nations, dancing together
We have worked together with other sellers in the past to create hype and excitement for advertising and sales. Sometimes we just do provide art, or help with insert/manual designs. We also have plans to work with other neogeo people for more future releases. (people will be shocked on the future news)
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Wow, Dion backing down?!?

And resorting to the same tactics as before.

You gracefully said you would answer any on-topic questions, why not now?

There's no cat and mouse - just a lot of unanswered questions and contradictions.

Tell you what, I'll give you $5,000 to release a new gameplay video. I want to see you play stages 6-12.

You get money and don't even have to release the game.

Is your number still the 8401? If you are interested, I'll have the funds allocated today, and set up a conference call for later.

Free money. I know you need the money, seeing as you lost your house and wife.

Ha, you couldn't afford your wife anymore... How's that make you feel, buddy?

 

can you redirect me to that tape?
there's a link you can share?

 

Clearly someone has it given the clarity of these screenshots. http://www.neogeoprotos.com/games/last_odyssey.htm

About release, wheela asked a good question about you talking about some sort of release. Do you actually still have a license agreement to put out non-SNK Neo-Geo titles? This game is by "Monolith". Really I just would like to see the ROM images preserved by being put online. However that can come about doesn't really matter to me.

 

It's always "what can NGF do for us now?
seriously, without NGF, what would most of the ng.com mebers ever be talking about?

Question: Can we provide new video of Last Odyssey?
Answer: Yes.

So what would the new denial be?
That someone sent us ANOTHER video just when we needed it again?

footage came from NGF, from our cartridge
The first time NGF provided video footage of Last Odyssey, a game NO ONE EVER SAW IN ACTION, people like mike/tonk came up with the idea that NGF somehow tracked down video footage just in time when people demanded it. Somehow, somewhere, we just happen to find footage of an unreleased game just to keep the lie going. Do you guys realize how desperate you guys sound for that assumption?

At this point in time.... Chris and myself will no longer respond or give into any more demands and threats about protos, since it seems it's just a witch hunt and used to flaming.

We already shown photos of the proto boards and provided a full length video. There is nothing else that we will do at this point in time. If people want to say we don't have "game X," so be it. I'll say it for you.... we don't have game X. We don't have anything rare or of interest. We don't have arts or other things people have never seen. Is that good enough for you guys?

Here is a question for mike=tonk=skymathematics and others at ng.com
You guys claim you hate NGF so much, so why do you keep talking about us?
Why do you obsess and follow everything Chris or myself does? (creepy right??) lol
Why talk about us by phone, by text message, via email, etc...?

Do you guys at ng.com really want NGF to disappear or is that just something you guys like to say outloud to look kool?

www.NeoGeoFreak.com
My work here is done on the subject of Last Odyssey or other unreleased games.
Just keep your eyes on the prize and keep checking www.NeoGeoFreak.com for the new unveil.
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I wasn't reaching, it was just simple question.

Just to clarify, you backed up the game before selling it, so retaining a ROM image (you didn't actually say if you did or not)?

But I think how can it reach a larger market if you are only looking at making possibly 200 units (that's what you said)?

Please can you clarify too involvement/connection with B2B? I think wheelaa has asked more than enough times, please answer him.

 

You misunderstand my post. I was not saying I believe Dion that he has the game. I was just saying that someone out there probably does have the ROM files judging by those pictures that were probably taken in NeoRageX. But I did not know the age of those pictures as you apparently do, so perhaps they were promo shots.

I'm just interested in seeing someone with the rom data upload them for all. But it's not like I spend very much time thinking about this subject or this particular game that I wasn't even aware of till recently. I just think in general it is a good idea to release these to be preserved collectively and enjoyed by anyone that is interested in it.

 

it´s from xacrow.

http://unibios.free.fr/xacrow/neogeo2.html

Notice this is a mirror from 2nd page he build. His previous one had more screenshots.

This is also from at least a decade ago. Ironclad and B2B are available now, some of his games are betas from released titles.

edit:

if you go at the root:

http://unibios.free.fr/xacrow

you can see NGF magazine scans of the unreleased games.

 

OK, if you provide footage you get $5,000. I don't care if you contact the guy that supposedly bought the game and he provides it. If you come up with footage of you or anyone else playing stages 6-12 I'll give you $5,000 by PayPal, now you have no excuse.

You look really dumb right now man, you proved my point. But let's see if you can do anything.

Quit lying, please. You keep regurgitating the same tired routine over and over again.

Yes, I'm OBSESSED with you and Chris, you make my life worth living. Now provide footage of the game from whatever source you choose, make your money and thats it.

:lol:

Fact remains, that you have an excuse for EVERYTHING.

If you provide footage right now, from the stages I requested, that will no doubt prove that you had the game the whole time. What do you care what anyone says? If someone says you contacted someone for the footage or whatever. You proved me wrong and took my money.

 

Now, everyone here can CLEARLY see how Dion operates.

He got backed into a corner and ran away.

There isn't a person alive that would pass on $5000 to record 6 stages of a game.

But when he can't come up with anymore excuses, he stops responding.

That's how pathetic he is.

It's OK, Dion, you can have your stage back. Continue lying to the good people of this forum.

 

OK, enough of the shit. Less talk, more action. If you can make a video, make it within the next week and post it online and make sure you do it with your face showing along side the game running, ie; use a camera. Do this and you will shut everyone up and be able to look like a right smug git while saying, "I told you so".

Don't post a video and it just shows that you are full of shit. No excuse of, "I don't have a video camera." because you do. Everyone these days has something that can take video. Don't say, "I don't have the time" because if you are a respected business man you'd make time to clear the air.

I have no opinions on you or the people accusing you of shit but I am tired of having to check these bloody threads everyday to make sure the video games world war isn't about to start.

Yakumo

PS: I know when you have read this thread by the way. Records are kept of all visitors and what threads they visit. You probably know this though. So no pretending that you haven't seen this post.

The request is out. If you ignore it you are admitting you are talking shit to the fans of Neo Geo. Not cool at all. If you post a new video then all is fine and we can all be friends again and owe you a massive apology.

 

Man, cheers.

I'd love to buy you a drink and a cigar. Finally someone steps in and puts an end to this shit.

You kinda need to be on NG.com - I like your attitude.

 

No problem :thumbsup:

 

we knew people would still not believe NGF
You know.... Chris and I knew that even with a new video provided, someone would make a new denial and claim we still didn't have the game. But we were willing to have some fun with it.
So now the Last Odyssey video we were going to provide needs to be done within a week and MUST ALSO HAVE MY FACE (OR CHRIS'S FACE) showing in the video to prove something?? lol. Man, this just get's better and better.

2 hours later??
Funny about your claim because I've been away from my computer for quite a while. It is currently 10:53pm PST and I haven't been home or online in I think about 2 hours.

As for your demand of the new video to include chris or myself playing the game.... you'll now be glad to know that we will no longer be supplying a new video of Last Odyssey for anyone. "you must show yourselves playing!!" hahaha That is GOLDEN!!

Learn to be sweet
You guys need to learn that making demands or threats isn't the proper way to get someone to do something. As the old saying goes, "You can catch more flies with honey, than you can with vinegar."

Last Odyssey video is OFF THE TABLE.
Stop asking. Stop making demands to meet a deadline or that the video must show Chris or myself playing the game. We're not providing another Last Odyssey video. The first one we provided shows the game and people can see how it playes.

Next chapter
Video footage of Poolmaster.
Maybe someone will send us the needed video so we can prove we have this game too.
Video that will just magically be found by us after 15 years of being lost.
But "some people" will still doubt we have/had this game for years.

We showed the proto cart and test image picture of the title screen years ago. Now it seems that the rom is out there cause someone recently posted a new title screen image taken directly from NeoRage.

Track down the person who first showed that newly found NeoRage image and see if they will give out/dump the rom for free. Let the next witch hunt begin.
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